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[FerrolupisXIII]

I had a match the other evening where the enemy team dropped in with a TON of ECM. we had some ourselves but really. anyways that is not the point.

we were on caustic, and we were sitting behind part of the ridge line. the enemy team starts coming around, under ECM cover. several ravens are in harassing us and focusing down our lights, the usual. I've got LRM's but i cant get a lock due to them not being countered. so i look up to see what else is coming.

WHAM, lasers in the face. there's an outline of a Stalker standing on the ridge, under ECM. so i cant lock.

but he's standing still

i drop the reticule over him, and fire away. one volley, two, three.... i forget what i got to. he seemed more concerned with the units in the fur-ball in the valley between us than with a "stupid LRM CPTL that cant lock me cause i'm under ECM hurr hurr"

the guy never moved, and i took him down.

Lesson: ECM is not a shield, don't be an *****. keep moving! use cover! if the guy had been moving even a little i wouldn't have done nearly as much damage.

[Apoc1138]

ssshhh don't tell people, I love it that people stand still when they have that little eye icon on their screen
best part being - they don't even get an "incoming missile" warning so you can usually land 2 salvos on them before they even have chance to move

[Tarman]

My favourite is a light mech that decides standing still or slowing for better shot accuracy in a furball is a good idea. Especially on those days when I'm packing a hi-burst loadout. Goodbye little buddy!

[Lynette Steffeld]

Omg y yu tel dem

how 2 I keel lait now??!!111one

Omgcakepls

*Froths*

[Taizan]

TBH this will mostly only happen in PUGs, not 8vs8 and it takes many more missiles than usual, but it does work when the window of opportunity is given.

[Joseph Mallan]

Not all of us who stand still and fire, do so cause we are stupid. It like playing chicken. You want a piece of me? Here I am. Gauss & ER Large Laser v your weapons... who flinched first? Now when it starts to get hot (two or more Mechs v Me...) I'll move. But guess what, I have put holes in you and my brawlers will finish you in short order... usually.

[kesmai]

The importance of standing still should not be underestimated. literally standing still IS the most important thing in this game.
this is a social game (part of) and standing still makes you a good target, others will like you for it. your teammates will love you for the fact that they always know where you are. your enemies love getting you killed, thus they befriend you faster.
You just got the inner meaning of battletech if you stand still, or atleast you don´t get tricked by the nonsense they try to tell you like: 70 tons of machinery moving at 65 km/h.
Last but not least you do something against the chaos on the battlefield. you are an non chaotic avatar of order, thus superior to all those hectically moving idiots around you.

STILLGESTANDEN.
WEGTRETEN.

kesmai

[Joseph Mallan]

800+ damage 2 Kills 4 assists... standing still 70% of the time. Sniping is done best while still & stable.

[FerrolupisXIII]

Yes yes i know standing still is important sometimes. it just surprised me the guy didn't move an inch. and as far as i could tell without a lock he wasn't rocking sniper equipment considering the laser fire i saw him pouring in. i like to stand still in my gauss/ppc builds of course but I'm not going to stand there and let missiles hit me either. a simple side step would have gotten him out of the way.

I'll give you credit where it's due, it takes some balls to stand there and say "go ahead, i frigging well dare you"

[AlexWildeagle]

I don't need ECM to stand still

But seriously gauss rifles need stability

[Goldhawk]

Dude, it's a Stalker. Those are some of those few mechs that do most of their good work while standing still. Catapults have done the same thing, except they have the engines to move around and get better positions. Stalkers are in my opinion, the giant pinata of the Mechwarrior community, when you finally crack it open and go for the *Candy* inside, you feel kinda badass. Especially if you took the mech down and you are several weight classes below the Assault category. You sir, are an intelligent Catapult able to fire at units under the ECM umbrella. WELL DONE SIR. If it's over 200 meters away the missiles still do damage. Many Many people forget that fact.

[Tarman]

Joseph Mallan, on 18 January 2013 - 04:39 AM, said:

Not all of us who stand still and fire, do so cause we are stupid. It like playing chicken. You want a piece of me? Here I am. Gauss & ER Large Laser v your weapons... who flinched first? Now when it starts to get hot (two or more Mechs v Me...) I'll move. But guess what, I have put holes in you and my brawlers will finish you in short order... usually.

You can usually tell the difference between a lure and a fool. The fools usually get asploded, while the lures tend to dance on your smoking remains when you bite at the bait.

[Lupin]

Seems this problem AGAIN due to ECM field size 180m when it should really be only 90m at best.
Meaning that if you are covering another team mate with ECM then you have to be close.

Another good example of this is frozen city, going down tunnel and starting to get signal warning from Mech with ECM on ridge line near crashed drop ship.

[XWorldEaterX]

lol, yeah some people get way too focused. My friend often cores enemies by simply getting behind them and they just refuse to turn around.

Nothing is as bad as lights who back peddle though. I get so many kills when they do that. I know its tempting when you see a guy with no back armor but atleast look around and make sure that no one is looking at you with an ac/20 or 2

[CDLord HHGD]

Yup. Dumb firing LRMs is one of the greatest ninja tactics. No warning that they are inbound, no warning that they'll hit until they do. Usually it's a good way to dislodge a sniper, but if the Stalker just stood there, then all the better.

[Jakob Knight]

cdlord, on 18 January 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

Yup. Dumb firing LRMs is one of the greatest ninja tactics. No warning that they are inbound, no warning that they'll hit until they do. Usually it's a good way to dislodge a sniper, but if the Stalker just stood there, then all the better.

Well, no warning except the giant flares of light anyone with eyes can see arcing in on you, for many long seconds. Anyone who fails to see that is probably going to die anyway, even if the enemy is a 53pkh Jenner with only a flamer.

And let's face it. If you'd had a Guass Rifle, Large Laser, Autocannon, ect. and he had done the same, he'd have died faster. Sitting still in full view of an enemy for an extended period will always result in your death if they have the firepower to core your cockpit or torso, so I don't think this is an LRM-only issue.

Edited by Jakob Knight, 18 January 2013 - 06:37 AM.