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#1 Kaspirikay

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

If they got 1 more than you, you're dead.

#2 Sug

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

Everyone already knows this.

#3 Felix

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:51 PM

The devs know the problems with ECM.

They just dont care.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:53 PM

Let the moaning commence! I ran 20 matches today and quite enjoyed myself - and I dont own any ECM mechs.

#5 Kaspirikay

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:54 PM

View PostFelix, on 16 January 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

The devs know the problems with ECM. They just dont care.


This makes me a sad cat.


Streakcat that is.

View PostHighlandCoo, on 16 January 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

Let the moaning commence! I ran 20 matches today and quite enjoyed myself - and I dont own any ECM mechs.


Well, I would like that. But you see playing with 280 ping means using anything other than lock on will suck.

#6 Dishevel

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

View PostHighlandCoo, on 16 January 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

Let the moaning commence! I ran 20 matches today and quite enjoyed myself - and I dont own any ECM mechs.

I had a good time today as well.
That is because when I PUG, I have learned not to care.
I do not care that spiders lag bounce all over with ECM.
I do not care that chat sucks balls.
I do not care that we will NEVER se CW.
I am cool with the bad heat issues with PPCs and ERLLs and LPLs.
I am fine with no colisions and with any mech over 60 kph having to either have fun by shooting at my targets or do well by shooting 600 yards in front of them.
I have no issues with any of that because I know what this game is and have not spent a crapload of money on it yet.
Now I most likely will not spend any more. Maybe I am wrong and they can fix all the problems and add a map or two.
Maybe I am really wrong and some day we will get CW. I do not think so though.

Those who need a balanced game that competetive and diverse while being fairly balanced and enjoyable to play and waiting for the ability to choose maps and have decent netcode and matchmaking can either spend a lot of time here bitching about the game or find a new one.

#7 Blue Shadow

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:03 PM

View PostFelix, on 16 January 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

The devs know the problems with ECM.

They just dont care.


Or they do care and are just not ready to make an announcement yet...maybe still play testing different alternatives? Remember they only released ECM before the holidays the first two or so patches after the holidays were probably in the works before then, so only recently have they had time to check data/feedback so on and so forth... in other words provide constructive feedback and wait before jumping to conclusions. :ph34r:

#8 Texas Merc

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:04 PM

:rolleyes:


its still beta


LOLOLOL


weeeee

still had fun

L2P :ph34r:

#9 Navid A1

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:08 PM

View PostKaspirikay, on 16 January 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:


Well, I would like that. But you see playing with 280 ping means using anything other than lock on will suck.


well... my lasers do wonders against their tiny legs... lead shoot to break the lag shield. :D

#10 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:23 PM

View PostFelix, on 16 January 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

The devs know the problems with ECM.

They just dont care.


pretty much this from what we're seeing as they "cant knee jerk this"

they cant "knee jerk" react to it... LRMs were in CB for less time before they were knee jerk nerfed so hard that they became useless overnight (the first august nerf). But NOW they cant knee jerk ECM

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:30 PM

Make the weight 3 tons for starters....like hotfix it.

#12 Felix

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:07 AM

View PostBlue Shadow, on 16 January 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:


Or they do care and are just not ready to make an announcement yet...maybe still play testing different alternatives? Remember they only released ECM before the holidays the first two or so patches after the holidays were probably in the works before then, so only recently have they had time to check data/feedback so on and so forth... in other words provide constructive feedback and wait before jumping to conclusions. :D


There have been no less than 2 TWO interviews where they have said "Nope ECM is perfectly fine as is."

So its not really jumping to conclusions when they themselves have said its fine, showing they really just done care.

#13 Revorn

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:11 AM

View PostFelix, on 17 January 2013 - 12:07 AM, said:


There have been no less than 2 TWO interviews where they have said "Nope ECM is perfectly fine as is."

So its not really jumping to conclusions when they themselves have said its fine, showing they really just done care.


Or just dont understand. I prefare the last second option, the first one would be unpolite and we all know the DEs are at least Polite.

#14 Karl Streiger

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:12 AM

Well actual i'm really successfull with a Stalker those primary armament are two LRM 15.
The only thing is you have to look more carefully - TAG and done

#15 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:14 AM

View PostFelix, on 17 January 2013 - 12:07 AM, said:


There have been no less than 2 TWO interviews where they have said "Nope ECM is perfectly fine as is."

So its not really jumping to conclusions when they themselves have said its fine, showing they really just done care.


I do believe the quote was "working as intended"
So by that measure support mechs (IE catapults) were added accidentally. Especially the variant without energy weapons

#16 Texas Merc

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:24 AM

i almost peed my pants.

almost

then i realized i was an adult?

#17 Xiao Youngblood

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

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Well actual i'm really successfull with a Stalker those primary armament are two LRM 15.
The only thing is you have to look more carefully - TAG and done


Same here i pug most of the times and often land within the top 3 of my team as a missile boat ecm's have not killed this game.

And besides alot of things are not as intended for now remember we are in a beta not a finished product.

#18 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:28 AM

View PostXiao Youngblood, on 17 January 2013 - 12:27 AM, said:


Same here i pug most of the times and often land within the top 3 of my team as a missile boat ecm's have not killed this game.

And besides alot of things are not as intended for now remember we are in a beta not a finished product.


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#19 Warrio5

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

The problem lied within the connection problem, not entirely the ECM( even though as it is now, most missiles base mechs can only be grounded, especially streak cat) cause the the only option that work against ECM equipped light mechs are lasers brawling mechs. However, with the lag shield and fps rate dropping issues, it just generally become unbearable for a lot of players. Just hope the dev know how to fix those problems or at least address them to the community so that we know they're looking into it. Also, the problem of 1 sided matches has been a long problem for PUG players and it just got worse with ECM. But hey, who said that this is an easy game for non-cooperative players. Also, i'm a PUG player myself and i got fair share of win matches with people who know at least how to stick together lol.

Edited by Warrio5, 17 January 2013 - 12:33 AM.


#20 Smeghead87

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:33 AM

View PostMxxpower, on 16 January 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Make the weight 3 tons for starters....like hotfix it.

That would make the Raven 3L weigh 36.5 tons, so they won't do that.





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