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[VIEJODIABLO]

Just want some advises of what to improve in this setup:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...93938e40083951e

thnks

[Perren DWolff]

Looks decent as long as you you can hit the target.

[Eisenhorne]

I'd ditch the CASE and streak, as well as increase the engine size, along with a few other modifications.

Here's my pretty successful gaussaphract.

CTF-4X

[Gunnisson]

Its a decent build, I'd drop the CASE from both side torsos and move the streak and ams ammo to the two different legs and use the ton saved from the 2 CASEs dropped to add another ton of gauss ammo.



Eisen, you've got AMS ammo without case in a torso with an XL engine, that's just asking to blow up. Put it in the leg.

Edited by Gunnisson, 21 January 2013 - 07:34 AM.

[Arete]

Gauss ammo doesn't explode, so you can drop the CASE right away. Just put the ammo for AMS and SSRM in the legs. Then you get some weight for adding two medium lasers in the CT, to help you at least have some defense against lights. Also, drop the two heatsinks and go for double, the engine heatsinks + one external will give you better heat efficiency.

Something like this:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ad63cf7667a4788

[Flapdrol]

yeah, drop case, doesnt do you any good, you can get rid of one heatsink as well, gauss only generates 1 heat, so will never overheat your mech.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d9a9b9a6e8ca4b

might want an extra ton of ammo
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b9578836cf5cbbe

Edited by Flapdrol, 21 January 2013 - 07:41 AM.

[Gunnisson]

Arete, on 21 January 2013 - 07:34 AM, said:

Gauss ammo doesn't explode, so you can drop the CASE right away. Just put the ammo for AMS and SSRM in the legs. Then you get some weight for adding two medium lasers in the CT, to help you at least have some defense against lights. Also, drop the two heatsinks and go for double, the engine heatsinks + one external will give you better heat efficiency.

Something like this:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ad63cf7667a4788

The case is there for the ams and streak, so I'm guessing he knew what you just said. I'd also guess he hasnt gone for double because he hasn't yet got the cash for it.

[VIEJODIABLO]

Thank you all!! great advises!! just a thing i didnt know is that gauss ammo doesnt explode, maybe i was too worried about it. but thanks... ill try´em later this night! Again... THANK YOU!

[Limekiller]

This is my build: CTF-4X

Definitely very fond of it. Works really well. Do note for yours that Endo-Steel is much much superior to Ferro-Fibrous. Both cost the same number of crit slots, but Endo Steel will net you a couple more tons of space than Ferro Fibrous will. Also, assuming you have the cash for it, definitely go to double heat sinks, especially if you bump up the size of the engine to 250 or 255, so you don't have to carry any extra heat sinks at all.

Edited by Limekiller, 21 January 2013 - 09:06 PM.

[Ravennus]

This looks interesting, I'll have to give it a go someday!

Just a thought, though.... would it be slightly more helpful to pad the crit spaces in the Gauss arms with some of the Gauss Ammo?
Since it won't explode it might take a hit or two that would normally hit the Gauss Rifle.

I don't think it would make a HUGE difference, but every little bit helps with those fragile things.
Something like this? CTF-4X

Edited by Ravennus, 21 January 2013 - 11:39 PM.

[Lucinator]

personally I prefer using the 3d for my gaussaphract the off set of the main weapons doesn't seem to affect my accuracy and I get jump jets out of the deal. I also run zoom mod

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...caff73deb01e9c4

Edited by Lucinator, 22 January 2013 - 12:59 AM.

[MasterBLB]

Very weak build with unnecessary stuff like case and without mandatory one like DHS.
Check this Gausspult
2 mediums and ssrm2 will help you to fight lights,and'll keep heavier mechs busy while gausses are on cooldown.
70 Gauss round are plenty enough to not afraid to shoot anytime you wish,without a need to save ammo.

Edited by MasterBLB, 22 January 2013 - 02:44 AM.

[John MatriX82]

Here's my suggestion:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...71feeb6520fc3f3

First, place ammunitions within the gauss in the arms; this because it may remotely happen that once the armor on your arm is gone, a crit may hit the ammo slot rather then the gauss (the probability is very low, but it's better than leaving only the gauss crits there). Gauss ammo doesn't explode, the gauss itself does.

Second, ditch FF and replace it with ENDO. ALWAYS. Endo allows much more weight savings than FF so you can load up more ammo or use a larger engine for better mobility and mech turn and twist speed. Use FF only if you can add it to ENDO, but this happens on lights mostly, sometimes medium mechs or Dragons with STD engines.

Third: case+XL engine is redundant; if they crit your ammo pack it means you're going to explode anyway since your side torso is already near to be gone, so place ammunitions in the legs.

Fourth, going with DHS allows you to add a couple of mlasers and endo to add 1 more ton of ammo. I'd ditch AMS and its ammo for 1 extra ammo of Gauss (I run Ilya and Gausspults with 7 tons usually) and place the remaining half ton to get 43 points of armor for the legs.

If you need to save up money this is what you can do by only ugrading to endo:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...16a41a378348cbd

Runs a bit hot, but since Mlasers should be used for short range defense, the heat output should be manageable, since whenever you heat up you can rely on the dual gauss and the SSRM.

[MustrumRidcully]

Ravennus, on 21 January 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

This looks interesting, I'll have to give it a go someday!

Just a thought, though.... would it be slightly more helpful to pad the crit spaces in the Gauss arms with some of the Gauss Ammo?
Since it won't explode it might take a hit or two that would normally hit the Gauss Rifle.

I don't think it would make a HUGE difference, but every little bit helps with those fragile things.
Something like this? CTF-4X

I think it would be a good idea.

If he didn't use an XL Engine, CASE could be interesting - it also stops ammo or gauss explosions from the arms, so if you're unlucky and the Gauss explosion would kill your arm, the damage transfers to the side torso, destroys the side torso, and then goes to your center torso, the CASE would stop the last step. For Gauss it's probably not that important, it's "only" 20 damage.

[Gigastrike]

Played around with it a bit and came up with this: CTF-4X

Switched ferro-fibrous armor to endo-steel to save more weight, and upgraded to double heat sinks. I have a rule of thumb against XL engines in Cataphracts, so I switched to the standard version. Streak missiles were removed and replaced with more reliable medium lasers. AMS was removed to save weight (I find ducking behind cover to be much more effective), and CASE was removed entirely since there's no longer a purpose for it.

[Tremendous Upside]

Flapdrol, on 21 January 2013 - 07:37 AM, said:

yeah, drop case, doesnt do you any good, you can get rid of one heatsink as well, gauss only generates 1 heat, so will never overheat your mech.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d9a9b9a6e8ca4b

might want an extra ton of ammo
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b9578836cf5cbbe

Why are you using FF on these and not endo steel? You're short changing yourself a couple tons for no reason...