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[Kaarde]

Hey folks,

I just got back from an extended stint over seas. The game was still in Closed Beta when I left.

Now that I'm back and picking up the game again I have a question. My go to mech was a Hunchback sporting two srm racks in its torso. I plan on grabbing another but was wondering if it's worth sacrificing a bit of weight to grab an Artemis.

Ive read that they spread out the srm pattern and wanted to know if the module would help counteract that.

[GODzillaGSPB]

Yes, it would. I use Artemis for my Hunchback 4SP.

[Lyrik]

For me, the tradeoff in ammo consumption, heat and weight wasn't worth it.

[The Amazing Atomic Spaniel]

It tightens up the missile spread against targets that don't have ECM. I prefer the slight edge it gives as a trade-off vs weight, but there's no definite yes or no answer.

[Lucky Noob]

HBK 4-P

1PPC
2 Medium Pulse Laser
6 Medium Laser.

No need for anything else

[Kaarde]

I was thinking going

Paired srm4's with 2 tons ammo
Med lasers in the arms
Ams
Artemis

Is it worth the trouble of double Heat Sink or Ferrofiberous or Endo-Steel on the Hunch?
I kept up with the forums a bit whilst stuck in Russia, but my Internet was spotty and I missed a lot of info on these.

Thanks

[Lucky Noob]

Il go with endo and double and i love it.

So much weight free to put nice shiny Guns in it and fast engines

[Fusea]

Now that the horrifying cost to reload artemis equipped missiles is gone, it's mostly a question of opprotunity cost. What could you do with the 2 free tons? More ammo? More heatsinks? More guns? More Speed? Personally, I tried artemis, and never really noticed much of a difference. So for me it was more heatsinks or ammo.

Just remember, you have to pay to buy it, and weirdly, pay again to rip it out. So keep that in mind.

[King Arthur IV]

no it is not.
if you can some how find an additional 4tons, maybe. 2 for artimus and 1 extra for each srm.


im running:
-std245
-4 medium
-1 medium pulse
-2 srm4
-2 tons of ammo
17 DHS
endo-steal
336/338 armor

im maxed out in tons and slots. on top of not being able to fit it, the grouping is not fantastic. if your in a hunchback, surely you can get close enough to use them.

[Apoc1138]

King Arthur IV, on 21 January 2013 - 05:46 AM, said:

no it is not.
if you can some how find an additional 4tons, maybe. 2 for artimus and 1 extra for each srm.


im running:
-std245
-4 medium
-1 medium pulse
-2 srm4
-2 tons of ammo
17 DHS
endo-steal
336/338 armor

im maxed out in tons and slots. on top of not being able to fit it, the grouping is not fantastic. if your in a hunchback, surely you can get close enough to use them.

by the same argument, you could swap all your medium lasers to smalls and be alot more heat efficient which would also allow you to run a slightly bigger engine (which would also give you +1 double heatsink) and you also get the benefit of the 0.75s beam duration and only a loss of 1 DPS out of 6.6 to 5.6

[M4L4R3K]

I think it is worth it

Running:
-XL 260 engine (I don't mind trading vulnerability for extra speed and weight,full throttle with speed tweak = 92kph)
-STD armor
-4 med lasers
-2 srm6 + Artemis (3 tons of ammo)
-336/338 armor
-15 DHS

Edited by M4L4R3K, 21 January 2013 - 06:29 AM.

[Havyek]

HBK-4SP

I just threw this together but it's a Standard 250, 4 MLAS, 2 SRM6s (no Artemis), 4 tons of ammo, AMS and 13 DHS.

Edited by BDU Havoc, 21 January 2013 - 06:28 AM.

[King Arthur IV]

Apoc1138, on 21 January 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

by the same argument, you could swap all your medium lasers to smalls and be alot more heat efficient which would also allow you to run a slightly bigger engine (which would also give you +1 double heatsink) and you also get the benefit of the 0.75s beam duration and only a loss of 1 DPS out of 6.6 to 5.6

it really comes down to player preference. your build would be faster more heat efficient (what isnt efficient with small lasers) the build im running is at 1.3 HE, that is a very manageable HE. your alpha is 10 damage less and you lose over 300m range. i can technically shoot you twice before you get in range to shoot once. it really is about player preference but this is off topic.

artimus is not worth the weight imo. imo you are wasting weight and slots on a upgrade that can deplete. 2 tons of ammo is enough ammo on the 4sp but its not alot.

[Carrioncrows]

The only hunchback design you "Don"t want to go ENDO with is the Hunchback-4P, and that's only because you need the space for all the Double Heat sinks you can fit.

As for the HGB-4SP, I run DHS, Endo, 5 Medium lasers and x2 SSRM6+ Artemis

[King Arthur IV]

Carrioncrows, on 21 January 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

The only hunchback design you "Don"t want to go ENDO with is the Hunchback-4P, and that's only because you need the space for all the Double Heat sinks you can fit.

As for the HGB-4SP, I run DHS, Endo, 5 Medium lasers and x2 SSRM6+ Artemis

ssrm6 ill pay anything for those.

[Apoc1138]

King Arthur IV, on 21 January 2013 - 06:36 AM, said:

it really comes down to player preference.

you asked how you could save weight on your build, that's all I responded to, whatever your reasoning is is fine

I actually run a similar build to you, but not medium pulse, just the 4 mediums and extra heatsinks

[MustrumRidcully]

I think ARtemis does good, but I am not sure it's needed. IF you have some spare money to switch back & forth, try it out.

[King Arthur IV]

Apoc1138, on 21 January 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

you asked how you could save weight on your build, that's all I responded to, whatever your reasoning is is fine

I actually run a similar build to you, but not medium pulse, just the 4 mediums and extra heatsinks

i should of made it more clear, i just dont like artimus. if op wants to try artimus out, he can give the build you suggested and the others a whirl.

[Taizan]

Moved this topic to the Battlemechs sub forum, where it is more appropriate.

[Ithereal]

RocketDog, on 21 January 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

It tightens up the missile spread against targets that don't have ECM. I prefer the slight edge it gives as a trade-off vs weight, but there's no definite yes or no answer.

Does anyone know the convergence ranges for SRM4/6 w/Artemis? I think they converge 3 times correct?