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[Solis Obscuri]

Loose?

[Chavette]

I carry em all.

[Mazzyplz]

i have a 1.4 win ratio with only pugging (only played 4 man a few times)

however i answered 3 because when my team mates fail to do anything intelligent 3 times in a row my faith in humanity starts fading a little bit...

stomping is not about ecm, or lrm... it's about noobs on your team, or just plain bad players.
otherwise it would be a normal loss, not a stomp

[Vanguard319]

Varies. If I get in good groups, I'll pug for awhile, then there's tonite, ran a pug, wound up on a team of idiots who did nothing but hide behind me while the other team used me for target practice. Got so disgusted by how worthless they were, I logged into TS immediately afterword.

If you think I'm being harsh, too bad. I can forgive dumb rookie mistakes, but I have zero tolerance for people who refuse to even make an effort.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

Avalios, on 24 January 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Or you could always....ya know.....play a team game with a team?

Paran01ac, on 24 January 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

Jeezas facking christ, how hard is to say to someone in chat in first game you play: 'can I add you? lets drop together.' ??!

For some reason out of 20 games I played on a new free test account with some random dude in a group of 2, only 1-2 were against good 4 men on an enemy team.

Why your r3tardness and lack of communication should be a fault of the game?! Get some friends and play with them, it's not that hard, stupid.

Orgasmo, on 24 January 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

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OP you would think your poll asked,
"How many Stomps do you give before you get bored and log off"
by the way they seem to feel personally attacked. It is the "premade/pug" civil war hard at work there, i am sure it wasn't personal other than " r3tardness" and "stupid" lol good poll and thank you.

Given orgasmo there is just trying to show the path to victory

Edited by Cuthbert Allgood, 24 January 2013 - 08:31 PM.

[Rokuzachi]

Other:

I can handle getting stomped, a lot, if I feel it was a fair fight. After all, with premium + hero mech, you can fail your way upwards in the game C-bills wise.

I get fed up very quickly when;

- Our team has disconnects/AFKers and the other does not
- The amount of ECM-equipped mechs on the other team borders on the ridiculous, while we have one or none. (Four to our one? Yea that's cool)
- When a TK'er shows up, on either team
- Someone, on either team drops out due to a bug (black screen, yellow screen, FPS bug, etc)

[mekabuser]

Solis Obscuri, on 24 January 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

Loose?

wow.. How scary. I thought "loose" was the right word.. Very scary. lose. Thats been wrong in my head for years now I guess.
See if I can edit. title.. Otherwise Im "that guy"

[Bguk]

I didn't vote as I don't fall into the criteria set forth in the op.
................................Who am I kidding, I voted! Viva la revolution!!

P.S. A couple of quick tips in my sig. 'Cause after all, we all mistakes.

Edited by Bguk, 24 January 2013 - 08:33 PM.

[GoManGo]

The game playing PUG has become so FUUCCKING STUPID I just go into games get a kill and log out I don't even stay around for the stomp anymore when it gets down to like 8v2,7v2,whatever and im one of the last 2 I just log out see ya because I know its always the same outcome 90% of the time with 4 mans or not against you or with you or the 4man+4man hack they use to gank pugs. I just have to say the game sucks as far as balanced gameplay.

Edited by GoManGo, 24 January 2013 - 08:34 PM.

[shintakie]

I agree with Vanguard319. It varies for me.

Sometimes I've gone a full 10 complete wipes in a row before I start ragin if only because the first 10 matches were either close or wipes on the other side. Other times I get horribly disgusted after 3 because they're the first 3 matches I played.

The quickest was twice in a row when every single mech in the first match on the other side was a ECM Raven or DDC Atlas. Literally...every...single...one. Every one on my team was a trial or me in my founder Jenner. The next match we got shoved up against a synced drop group that announced, in chat, that they were a sync dropped group and that we should just roll over and die because it was goin to happen anyway.

Think that one made me quit playin for a week in disgust.

In general though I'd say about 5. Its probably the average.

[River Walker]

I have a 100% pug account No MC to buy New Mechs And no I am talking about a new Account I made 3 days ago to test out what its like to be a free user.
After 5 drops I was at the point of punching out my keyboard.
The in house Mech setup just plan Sucks. The Mech setup is just bad in my opinion.
Yes I will be sticking with my grinding Account Cimaron because I want to see just how fare I can get in this game with out putting in real cash.

Edited by River Walker, 24 January 2013 - 08:45 PM.

[Eddrick]

Losing doesn't bother me that much. It doesn't happen enough to bother me.

So the team gets rolled. It happens. Deal with it.

As for how many are premades. If a lot of them are premade, then they are not very good at using sophisticated tactics. Most of the tactics my teams have been rolled by were ones that PUGs can do. Example: Say in chat at start of match, "My TAG laser puts a crosshair shape above the target and you can clearly see it. Focus fire on my TAGed target".

Most of the times my team was rolled was just because of focus fire. also,I have seen many times where my team got seperated. That is asking for a loss as well. Especialy, when the enemy team stays together. It's much more of the fault of the team not working together, then the enemy being a premade.

[Loc Nar]

I don't get mad when my pug gets stomped, but TKs, friendly fire, clumsy mechs crashing into me, blocking my fire, and blocking my exits to cover all make me want to punch myself in the d***.

[mekabuser]

Mazzyplz, on 24 January 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

i have a 1.4 win ratio with only pugging (only played 4 man a few times)

however i answered 3 because when my team mates fail to do anything intelligent 3 times in a row my faith in humanity starts fading a little bit...

stomping is not about ecm, or lrm... it's about noobs on your team, or just plain bad players.
otherwise it would be a normal loss, not a stomp

This is true..
I only recently found my mojo in this game, partly because many times being on a pug team means, well some seriously bad
team mates.

Alot of them.. I mean really, can you imagine what it would be like to spectate the bottom 20% of ELO ranking matches?

As a decent player its just frustrating at times..
Conversely, for me, premades were just easy..... easy mode... I was running trials... and never even got the paint scratched..

Also, as someone said.. this isnt about premades stomping... Its just about being on a bad pug team , game after game..

Hell it could have been all pug teams killing us this morning, but I dont think so

So, the poll is to measure the toll this frustration takes..

[Heeden]

It feels like I spent most of tonight getting stomped but it didn't bother me much. You just have to understand that some of the people you are dropping with will be really new and possibly struggling with driving their mech, nevermind driving it well and shooting the bad robots, and it's very easy for just a couple of inexperienced pilots to get your team stomped in quick order. If the team is mostly competent, or at least the bad players are bad enough to get taken down early without dragging us with them, we can generally make the premade at least work for their victory.

On the other hand I've also been on the stomping side quite often (I'm pure PuG so must have either been grouped with a premade or got lucky with my fellow PuGgers) and even had quite a few close matches so overall I reckon it balances out.

I started playing at the beginning of open beta, when a typical PuG experience was being pitted against an 8 man team featuring 5 or 6 LRM boats and by the time the 4-man limit was implemented my W/L was something like 20/120. I'm nearing a thousand matches now and the gap is still hovering around the hundred mark.

[Jack Corvus]

I win and lose in equal amounts. It's a very close split. In over a thousand games, I've played maybe 25-30 with a single friend, and that's probably overestimating. 97+ % are drops as a lone wolf. I honestly usually can't tell when the enemy team has prearranged groups or not. It's not like the days of full 8 man drops vs. random players ( I lost a lot of games then, but it gave me time to work on being a better killer, since it was the only shot at winning). Nothing has pushed my buttons so far. Well. Nothing related to group composition. Team killers still make me pretty angry.

[Vlad Ward]

All it takes is 1 good player in a group of 15 randoms to throw a game so far out of whack that it's impossible for the losing team to recover. Domino effect, blah blah blah. Identifying groups with colored names would do little more than put more pressure on people's fragile egos.

It's okay. Even if there aren't any premades on the other team, they still only won because they had more ECM/SRMs/LRMs/Lasers/Cannons/Lights/Mediums/Heavies/Assaults/Snipers/Campers/Brawlers/Founders

[Qeysadilla]

I have no problem losing; i could lose all day every single game and have a smile on my face doing it. i can't take it when my personal performance goes into the toilet.

[Vanguard319]

mekabuser, on 24 January 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

This is true..
I only recently found my mojo in this game, partly because many times being on a pug team means, well some seriously bad
team mates.

Alot of them.. I mean really, can you imagine what it would be like to spectate the bottom 20% of ELO ranking matches?

As a decent player its just frustrating at times..
Conversely, for me, premades were just easy..... easy mode... I was running trials... and never even got the paint scratched..

Also, as someone said.. this isnt about premades stomping... Its just about being on a bad pug team , game after game..

Hell it could have been all pug teams killing us this morning, but I dont think so

So, the poll is to measure the toll this frustration takes..

Agreed. There is no shame in losing if you and your team gave it your all, but it's insulting to carry the load because your so-called "teammates" insist on going solo, or won't assist you when you need help, or just use you as a shield while they **** around.

[TheMadPoet]

Lost probably 10+ in a row tonight. Always against teams heavy with ecm atlases and lights. Every single match.

It's been rough for a long while..probably since the intro of ecm, and it's just getting worse. I get paid tomorrow and was thinking of actually splurging and getting a couple of hero mechs, but after this last run..ugh. Maybe not..

It really is getting tedious facing pretty much the same team makeup and premades a majority of the time.