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[Greyfyl]

Actually there are enough new/average players in the US teamspeak server that it's no longer a guarantee you will win 90% of your games. With that said, you will almost never get rolled 8-0 or 8-1 so even the losses are much more enjoyable.

But good, well balanced matches aren't important to the longevity of the game from what I can tell from reading a lot of the posts on these forums.

[Congzilla]

OMG good players are playing, better log off.

[Bguk]

This is when I drop mainly solo(read as pug). I enjoy playing this games at all times of the day(when I can). Anyone can enjoy the game at any time of day.

[Pihb]

Serapth, on 28 January 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

If it makes you feel better, you are all just a vocal minority QQing... there is no problem, at least, according to the loudest premades on these forums.

Congzilla, on 28 January 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

OMG good players are playing, better log off.

You called it dude.

[Greyfyl]

Congzilla, on 28 January 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

OMG good players are playing, better log off.

When said 'good players' are all stacking themselves on one team it does tend to discourage new players and players of average ability. Remember, not everyone thinks that an online stompy robot game is life and death, they may just want to have some fun.

Heaven forbid not that!!!!! I listened to 2 of the NGNG podcasts today at work for some stupid reason and boy did they paint a picture of just how overly serious some of you are, you make trekkies seem cool.

[Feetwet]

Congzilla, on 28 January 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

OMG good players are playing, better log off.

Yep thats it. Only good players play us nighttime, never any other time. I didn't realize all of the talent was so centralized. Well I guess we can close this discussion, problem solved.

S

[Serapth]

Pihb, on 28 January 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

You called it dude.

Usual suspects are usual.

[Percimes]

Yeah, it's an awful time to pug, it's much nicer during the afternoon (more or less european primetime).

Hopefully pugging will have a better place once community warfare, factions and all are implemented in game. Not sure the player base is big enough to be divided at this time into premade and pugs. I wish, for the moment, that they would balance teams better: for each group of 3-4 players on one side there should be another one on the other side. I guess it gets a little bit trickier to make a match maker that consider this and weight categories (and ECM while we're in dream mode).

Since we're still in beta and I can understand. Once everything is in place I won't be as forgiving though.

[Dagger6T6]

I don't get it... why all the QQ against premades? I've done a fair share of PUG and organised drops and I don't see why the premade is made out to be some elusive bigfoot who stomps PUGs but is never really seen by anyone or even confirmed to exist.

Do premades cause PUGs to ignore cover and get pounded by LRMs?
Do premades cause PUG teams to just spread out across the map and never focus fire?
Do premades cause PUG members to crest a ridge one by one to be cut down like a spruce?

If anyone makes a noob move then you can expect to pay for it... I guess the price is just higher when you are facing the premade boogeyman.

[Pihb]

Dagger6T6, on 28 January 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

I don't get it... why all the QQ against premades? I've done a fair share of PUG and organised drops and I don't see why the premade is made out to be some elusive bigfoot who stomps PUGs but is never really seen by anyone or even confirmed to exist.

Do premades cause PUGs to ignore cover and get pounded by LRMs?
Do premades cause PUG teams to just spread out across the map and never focus fire?
Do premades cause PUG members to crest a ridge one by one to be cut down like a spruce?

If anyone makes a noob move then you can expect to pay for it... I guess the price is just higher when you are facing the premade boogeyman.

Where is the QQ? Just saying, thats all.

[Grand Ayatollah Kerensky]

My KDR is directly proportional to the amount of pubbie tears I've consumed.

[STRONG LIKE BEAR]

Narcisoldier, on 28 January 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

My KDR is directly proportional to the amount of pubbie tears I've consumed.

You are most certainly terrible at this game.

[IceCase88]

I pug because I work night shift and cannot use TS/VOIP or I will wake up my family. I have noticed that around 8pm-12am EST the premades come out in force. The number of 8-0, 8-1, and the occasional 7-2 matches are consistent during these times. It also happens during these times in Europe too. The number of n00b builds increases. These were the peak times for DDCs, 3Ls, AC20Pults, SRM6Pults, and StreakPults. I just weather the storm until the kids go to bed.

[Feetwet]

I also don't really see any qq'ing. Just a bunch of guys agreeing with each other that they don't play at night because the game experience is drastically different (not as fun). It is nice of you to come in and assume that we don't know what the *** we are doing though. Yeah, cover...check, attempt to focus...check, approach anything piecemeal and die...check. I am we'll aware at this point that if I do something stupid I die.

What you should try though is coordinating, in text, while under fire and whoops your minimap is gone due to ECM. Start to see the advantages of comms now. I don't hate premades, they are just playing the game their way, which is fine. What I'm tired off is the assumption that pugs sux. I have seen some damn good pug pilots. They are even more impressive once you think of some of their limitations. Respect people, pug life!

S

[Dagger6T6]

Pihb, on 28 January 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

Where is the QQ? Just saying, thats all.

my apologies, I didn't particularly mean in this thread or by the OP... i just meant in general... this certainly isn't the first post on the matter although this one broaches the subject in a different way

Edited by Dagger6T6, 28 January 2013 - 08:56 PM.

[Soulscour]

This elitist attitude is annoying. You're not all that.

[5th Fedcom Rat]

Narcisoldier, on 28 January 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

My KDR is directly proportional to the amount of pubbie tears I've consumed.

Can't wait until 1 v 1 Solaris matches come along where I can smack down guys like this. Of course, they'll never play that mode cause they can't use their premade crutch.

[smokefield]

well..small advice...sleep at those hours and come play at European times

[dario03]

I only pug and I honestly never noticed much difference at those times. Honestly I only notice the game being easier at really late/really early EST hours and theres not much difference.

[IceCase88]

The Elitist attitude is really annoying. I told two people on my team not to run in front of me while I was engaging the enemy. Both "teammates" came from behind me well after I started firing and stepped right in front of me. One of the guys told me to shut uo and that he has put more hours into the game than I did. Like that means anything. I just do not want to get hit with a TK for blasting them in the back.

Solaris 1 v 1 will probably devolve into a n00b build fest (i.e. AC20Pults, SRM6Pults, and StreakPults).

Australians and Europeans are just as bad with the premade pug stomps complete with n00b builds. The window does not seem as long though.