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[The Dirteeone]

I know I am gonna get a bunch of,YOUR CRAZY and its teamwork that wins the match,or can you prove it, screenshot?I am going to say it anyway.Why so much cheating?The exploits or whatever they are called is the whole reason I stopped playingMW4.If you dont see this daily you must be blind.Example I put 4,9 med laser alphas in left arm of atlas,he goes on to kill me and 3 others before loosing his left arm.I am no game expert,but I am not an ***** either.You cant make any game fullproof,but Youd think you could play 10 matches a day without 1 total slaughter,you know 8 deaths on one team 1 on the other.Granted an unorganized pug drop where everyone runs different directions,is gonna end in certain defeat.I love the game,but is it really gonna end up like the MSN ZOne where certain teams have a 99% win rate?Thats my two cents worth.

[Psikez]

Well as long as we're telling anecdotes I've seen no cheating

[Team Leader]

I adjusted my files using word pad so my ac20s do 800 damage and weigh 2 tons, have heat seeking rounds all while firing faster than MGs. Also, work on your punctuation, please.

Edited by Team Leader, 29 January 2013 - 04:33 PM.

[Josef Nader]

I haven't seen a single cheater in my entire time with the game. What I have seen is some dodgy hit detection and some bug issues.

Lasers aren't hitscan. You can easily drag 9 medium lasers over an Atlas' arm, not deal full damage, and have him tank it like you were flicking peas at him. You've got to keep the lasers on for the full beam duration for them to deal anything resembling damage. Just because his arm flashed on the paper doll doesn't mean you dealt 9 medium lasers worth of damage to him.

[Team Leader]

Also I have hacked my account to have infinite cbills and nobody complains about that.

Edited by Team Leader, 29 January 2013 - 04:32 PM.

[Ptom]

Never seen any exploits besides the "stacking mechs" which I thought was a cheat at first.

What you are describing can come down to faulty hitboxes, bad latency due to distance from the server, or simply bad net code.

[TigrisMorte]

The Dirteeone, on 29 January 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

I know I am gonna get a bunch of,YOUR CRAZY and its teamwork that wins the match,or can you prove it, screenshot?I am going to say it anyway.Why so much cheating?The exploits or whatever they are called is the whole reason I stopped playingMW4.If you dont see this daily you must be blind.Example I put 4,9 med laser alphas in left arm of atlas,he goes on to kill me and 3 others before loosing his left arm.I am no game expert,but I am not an ***** either.You cant make any game fullproof,but Youd think you could play 10 matches a day without 1 total slaughter,you know 8 deaths on one team 1 on the other.Granted an unorganized pug drop where everyone runs different directions,is gonna end in certain defeat.I love the game,but is it really gonna end up like the MSN ZOne where certain teams have a 99% win rate?Thats my two cents worth.

Hate to tell ya' this but odds are that was not cheating. Odds are it was a mistake in the server authenticated fire which was sure you missed despite your screen showing obvious hits.

In other words, the system they implemented to prevent exactly the cheating you describe is causing the effect that cheating would have been used for.

On the plus side it is monstrously less common now than just a few patches ago. They actually have made great strides in trying to balance the server not knowing where things were when you fired. It shall get better still.

[Scryed]

The Dirteeone, on 29 January 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

I know I am gonna get a bunch of,YOUR CRAZY and its teamwork that wins the match,or can you prove it, screenshot?I am going to say it anyway.Why so much cheating?The exploits or whatever they are called is the whole reason I stopped playingMW4.If you dont see this daily you must be blind.Example I put 4,9 med laser alphas in left arm of atlas,he goes on to kill me and 3 others before loosing his left arm.I am no game expert,but I am not an ***** either.You cant make any game fullproof,but Youd think you could play 10 matches a day without 1 total slaughter,you know 8 deaths on one team 1 on the other.Granted an unorganized pug drop where everyone runs different directions,is gonna end in certain defeat.I love the game,but is it really gonna end up like the MSN ZOne where certain teams have a 99% win rate?Thats my two cents worth.

Why are you shooting the left arm of an Atlas???

[Broceratops]

i've hacked 39 master module mechs! BOOYAH TEAM LEADER

[Shredhead]

Buddy also had the problem after the last patch. All the hitboxes were completely borked, he seemed to not do any significant damage any more. He reinstalled, problem solved. Try this and come back to tell if you still see cheaters behind every corner.

[IceSerpent]

Scryed, on 29 January 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

Why are you shooting the left arm of an Atlas???

Because he is bad. Hitting it by accident is one thing, but FOUR 9-ML alphas? Utterly hopeless.

[Steven Dixon]

I haven't seen any cheating in this game. I have seen many one sided matches, sometimes its because of a premade other times its simply a little pug coordination, luck or a few abnormally skilled players. I've been on the side that has slaughtered about as much as Ive been slaughtered (all puging), so I don't really have a huge problem with it, the next phase of matchmaker should also help.

[Rotaugen]

I have seen exactly ONE blatant case of cheating in all the months that I have played and that player's account disappeared.

[Natasha Kerensky]

I have not seen any cheating.

[Shard Phoenix]

[Solis Obscuri]

Team Leader, on 29 January 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Also, work on your punctuation, please.

We are reading a thread made literally moments before the poster's hands dissolved in a shower of blood and goo and his cranium caved in from attempting to vigorously type using his face:


We are reading a thread made literally moments before the poster's hands dissolved in a shower of blood and goo and his cranium caved in from attempting to vigorously type using his face:

R.I.P. Dirteeone  

Edited by Solis Obscuri, 29 January 2013 - 06:39 PM.

[Dawg]

[HlynkaCG]

Note: If this is the commando pilot who accused me of hacking last night. It doesn't take an aimbot to score a head shot. Especially if you are standing motionless on my cap.

2 Gauss rifles = 30 damage.

12 pts of armor + 16 internal - 30 damage = decapitation + change

[GalaxyBluestar]

wow someone who doesn't realise netcode still isn't perfect yet...

[mickz0r]

HlynkaCG, on 29 January 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Note: If this is the commando pilot who accused me of hacking last night. It doesn't take an aimbot to score a head shot. Especially if you are standing motionless on my cap.

2 Gauss rifles = 30 damage.

12 pts of armor + 16 internal - 30 damage = decapitation + change

Commando doesn't carry 9 Medium Lasers, Atlas can't carry 2 guass rifles. Pretty sure this has absolutely nothing to do with you.

Back on topic, server hit detection is not so great, i think especially so if you have bad ping. I usually have 300-330 ping from living in Australia. The result is that when ima firin mah lazer it looks like its burning holes in mechs but the crosshair never turns red.

Bottom line, i have to aim into clear blue nothing to hit a mech that is moving. Hopefully the coming netcode fix will make this a thing of the past, but we'll see.

By the way, never seen any cheaters. I have not even suspected anyone yet.