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[SantaTheBest]

I'm the only one that see them?

1) i see mech that don't walk, just shifting around

2) i see people just "sitting down" and camping with catapult and 2 gauss cannon... team about 5 player with this mech

3) i see invincible mech, 5 vs 1 and the one survive and win

4) I see so many time One shot one kill. Hevay armored mech that goes down in one shot.

5) People that kwno where you are, alway.

I'm the only one that see this? There are some problem with cheater? Can we report in any way them?

Thanks cya!

[Z0MBIE Y0SHI]

Write down the names and send them here;
support@mwomercs.com

If you have a recording of the shenanigans in question all the better.

[Joseph Mallan]

Whats your video card like?
I ask cause i was wondering aboutt he mechs shooting me that were"invisible" Then I got a better computer and i can see the enemy from the Dropship on River City on the Enemy base in lower city!

[Booran]

Might also be lag related, at least part of it like mechs "shifting around"

[Penance]

wut?

[Rotaugen]

I try to always have FRAPS running in case of this. Haven't had to post on it though. Only seen ONE blatant cheat in months, and the account quickly disappeared. Usually it's more like I make a mistake and my team is running in 3 directions.

[Elkarlo]

1) Is an Issue with the current Patch and the Powerdown sequenz

The don't walk again on your display after they have been powered down und quick started by P
but they still have the normal walking.

4) Headshot. Somtetimes Problems in Damage noticing. Have you been in this "Heavily" Armored Mechs?
Some Atlas Pilots stuff their Ammo in the Legs and to get more inside, they remove the Armor of the Legs....
Was in a Stalker were the Armor was undamaged after some fighting then got hit by a raven and everything was red ( then the Damage was updated for me)

5) 360 Degree and Target Decay works wonders. You can trace a spottet Mech for about 4 Seconds when
he is already in cover.

Edited by Elkarlo, 01 February 2013 - 08:05 AM.

[Ghogiel]

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

1) i see mech that don't walk, just shifting around

This is an animation bug, dunno if it is state machine related or something else, but when a mech shuts down, some times it gets stuck in a frozen position.

[GODzillaGSPB]

Lol....the thread is a good mirror of the current community as a whole imho. Shoot first, think about it & ask questions later.

(The TS not so much, he asked, though the topic title is already a bit biased.)

[Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky]

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

2) i see people just "sitting down" and camping with catapult and 2 gauss cannon... team about 5 player with this mech

So alpha striking people with high damage setups as they walk around a corner is cheating in your country?

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

3) i see invincible mech, 5 vs 1 and the one survive and win

I'd chalk that up to the 5 being terrible at aiming/ spread out more than the one guy cheating.

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

4) I see so many time One shot one kill. Hevay armored mech that goes down in one shot.

Don't store your ac/20 ammo in the atlas' RT.
XL engines, shot in the back by a splaterpult,

Edited by Astroniomix, 01 February 2013 - 08:13 AM.

[Allen Ward]

Hey Santa, I assume you play PUG?

I have been oneshoted probably once or twice in over a hundred games now. Its close to impossible as long as you keep moving.

But I got alphad quote often to the center. My Awesome has 75 armor in the center body...still a cataphract managed to kill me in a single burst from around 200m distance. It is skill yes, but I dont think it feels right if one of the heaviest mechs in game can be instant killed by hitting him to his hardest armored part... I dont know how you can place a 75+ alpha into a cataphract... or how you still get center torso hits if you constantly turn your sides towards the enemy when they fire. Maybe its the netcode...some sort of lag...

as long as its beta full of bugs and problems many strange situations may occur...i doubt that the game suffers from heavy cheating.

altough, i consider playing premades against PUGs cheating...PGI should seperate the players that click the social button from those who didn't...could make it harder to find a match sometimes, but that would still be better than being murdered by premades constantly.

PS: no xl engine, no ammo stored, its a 6 LL awesome.

Edited by Allen Ward, 01 February 2013 - 08:20 AM.

[soarra]

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

I'm the only one that see them?

1) i see mech that don't walk, just shifting around

2) i see people just "sitting down" and camping with catapult and 2 gauss cannon... team about 5 player with this mech

3) i see invincible mech, 5 vs 1 and the one survive and win

4) I see so many time One shot one kill. Hevay armored mech that goes down in one shot.

5) People that kwno where you are, alway.

I'm the only one that see this? There are some problem with cheater? Can we report in any way them?

Thanks cya!

1. its a bug
2. its called defensive tactics
3. cant aim
4.i get called a cheater everyday with my ac/20 cat.. stop standing still
5. scouting

[Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky]

Allen Ward, on 01 February 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

Hey Santa, I assume you play PUG?

I have been oneshoted probably once or twice in over a hundred games now. Its close to impossible as long as you keep moving.

But I got alphad quote often to the center. My Awesome has 75 armor in the center body...still a cataphract managed to kill me in a single burst from around 200m distance. It is skill yes, but I dont think it feels right if one of the heaviest mechs in game can be instant killed by hitting him to his hardest armored part... I dont know how you can place a 75+ alpha into a cataphract... or how you still get center torso hits if you constantly turn your sides towards the enemy when they fire. Maybe its the netcode...some sort of lag...

as long as its beta full of bugs and problems many strange situations may occur...i doubt that the game suffers from heavy cheating.

altough, i consider playing premades against PUGs cheating...PGI should seperate the players that click the social button from those who didn't...could make it harder to find a match sometimes, but that would still be better than being murdered by premades constantly.

1: The awesome has a huge CT, it's fairly easy to hit even from the sides.
2: supperating pugs from premades would do nothing for you, you would still get rolled just as often. Uncoordinated teammates contribute to your losses just as much as (mostly uncoordinated) premades.

[Mercules]

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

I'm the only one that see them?

1) i see mech that don't walk, just shifting around

As another poster stated, bug.

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

2) i see people just "sitting down" and camping with catapult and 2 gauss cannon... team about 5 player with this mech

And?

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

3) i see invincible mech, 5 vs 1 and the one survive and win

That can happen easily if the 1 is untouched by combat and fairly good and the 5 are all pretty heavily damaged. It could happen even if they were not and the 1 is very skilled. Most likely though, those 5 have seen a bunch of combat and the 1 hadn't and was ready to go. Also, some people seem to have VERY bad aim in this game.

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

4) I see so many time One shot one kill. Hevay armored mech that goes down in one shot.

Headshots will do that. Also the 6 PPC Stalker does 60 damage to a single section if it fires them all at once and carefully. If it isn't an Assault mech and is running an XL that will rip most torsos off of mech and hit the engine.

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

5) People that kwno where you are, alway.

Like me? I like to scout and use a bunch of Sensor mods. I also have my graphics all the way up on a good solid computer so I can see you across the map if I zoom in. I have also literally followed other mechs around running right behind them and lighting them up with TAG without firing while people dropped shots and LRMs on them. They might know where you are because someone is spotting for them from behind you or VERY far away.

[SI The Joker]

What's a "chater"?

Edited by SI The Joker, 01 February 2013 - 08:45 AM.

[Nuclear Weapon]

I actually found a way to "cheat" and im reporting... Instead of exploting it

[SantaTheBest]

Thanks all the reply.

1) Ok, got it bug ^^ no problem

2) Most of the times when you jsut "camper" is preatty easy to win. If you show a bit of you face, bam you are dead.

3) Probably, but really some mech, don't know why are very hard to kill, even from behind

4) Most of the time is a gauss cannon, but really from a far far distance, i'm a catapult, even from more that 700 mt. That's why i'm asking. Is a bit frustrating.

5) Yes probably ^^

Thanks!

[soarra]

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Thanks all the reply.

1) Ok, got it bug ^^ no problem

2) Most of the times when you jsut "camper" is preatty easy to win. If you show a bit of you face, bam you are dead.

3) Probably, but really some mech, don't know why are very hard to kill, even from behind

4) Most of the time is a gauss cannon, but really from a far far distance, i'm a catapult, even from more that 700 mt. That's why i'm asking. Is a bit frustrating.

5) Yes probably ^^

Thanks!

catapults have huge cockpits

[Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky]

SantaTheBest, on 01 February 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Thanks all the reply.

1) Ok, got it bug ^^ no problem

2) Most of the times when you jsut "camper" is preatty easy to win. If you show a bit of you face, bam you are dead.

3) Probably, but really some mech, don't know why are very hard to kill, even from behind

4) Most of the time is a gauss cannon, but really from a far far distance, i'm a catapult, even from more that 700 mt. That's why i'm asking. Is a bit frustrating.

5) Yes probably ^^

Thanks!

Also keep in mind they can see you in thermal vision much farther out than they can target you.

[Allen Ward]

true, my skill is really bad. if others can kill with a double UA5 in seconds, and i cant, its my problem. unless annoying things like netcode, lag and playing on lowest graphics settings adds to it. i just cant spend 1.000 for a hyper machine giving me ultra resolution and graphics where i can ppc sniper over half the map. so i am doomed to get snipered like that by an enemy i just cant even see, because my computer cant handle it. not PGIs fault, but still not satisfying.

hm, recommending end game content like modules is probably not a fair advice for beginners, huh?

i am sure that seperating PUG from premades would make a difference. i would like to know how many regular PUG players believe that premades' advantages are not unbalancing matches at all... I play 10-20 PUG games a day, since November. when i play on a premade team, the chance to win increases drastically, even with me being such a bad aim and not much help, unless you encounter another premade team - then it all depends on the level of teamplay and training of each team.

PUGs are good at improvising, but always on their own. Its pure luck if your ECM comrades give you cover/disrupt so you can use missiles or if someone helps you get an enemy Raven off your back. You cant even cry for help, using the chat tool will kill you in any fight. The whole game has been layed out for team/premade which is fine. U cant argue, that PUGs on average have the same chances of winning as premades have. Individual games can run differently, a PUG team can win by causing chaos and confusion through their erratic actions alone, even against a premade team. But that is pure luck, not skill/not tactics/not fun.