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Ctf-3D: Dual Ac/10 Worth It?


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#1 Chrithu

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

Hey folks.

I just got the CTF-3D.

Currently I'm running a loadout with 2LL, 2ML and 2 LBX10-AC with 2 tons of ammo and XL 280 Engine.

I'm pretty happy with that so far but the thought struck my mind to switch the LBX10-AC's for AC10's and remove two DHS for that change.

Should I try that? Or are the LBX10-AC's fine?

#2 Gigastrike

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

It'd make you too hot. You'd have to cut down on the lasers.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

The XL 280 + Endo-Steel is a pain to work with once you drop the L.Las for x2 AC/10 instead (same range). Endo-Steel eats up slots, and an XL eats up slots and gives tonnage. (Ballistic weapons also eat slots...)

If you're willing to get an XL 300: [Link to Build]
Uses 100% of the slots, AMS ammo in head and M.Las arm (barely damages on explosion)

Edited by Stingz, 01 February 2013 - 09:12 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:21 PM

I had a really hard time finding a build I liked on the 3D - and it kind of sucked because it was the CTF I was most looking forward to. The hardpoints looked great on paper - but just getting everything to fit and keep the jump jets (which are of limited value anyways) was a chore. I tried 2 AC10s + 3 MPLs... wasn't bad, but ran too hot. Tried 4 LLs -- lacked the finishing power of other builds and still ran a little hot. Tried using combos with PPCs - but the hardpoints don't lend themselves all that well to that...

After trying every combo under the sun, the one I finally found that "clicked" was turning it into a poor man's Ilya (2 UAC5s, 4 MLs with endo, XL340 and 15 DHS). The jamming can get on your nerves - but it'll burn targets down in a heartbeat...

#5 Hex Pallett

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:10 AM

View PostBanky, on 01 February 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

I had a really hard time finding a build I liked on the 3D - and it kind of sucked because it was the CTF I was most looking forward to.


Lemme give you a hint. A Large Laser fires for one second and has a 3-second cooldown, making it 4 seconds for a whole cycle. A 3D has four energy hardpoints, along with Jumpjets.


Also, to OP: 2LL with 12 DHS? HAHAHAHAHA

Edited by Helmstif, 02 February 2013 - 12:10 AM.


#6 Chrithu

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:41 AM

View PostHelmstif, on 02 February 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Also, to OP: 2LL with 12 DHS? HAHAHAHAHA


It's called heat management.

I run a CDA 3M with 3 LL to large success aswell as a Dragon 1C with 4 LL also with good success. Sure it's hard to keep rolling out that damage constantly, but thanks to the netcode fixes I am most of the time able to make those shots count hitting the same spot for the whole beam duration.

I now made the changes I asked about and run 2LL, 2 AC 10 and 2 ML with just the 10 DHS that are in the Engine.

Works awesomely well.

#7 Tremendous Upside

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:45 AM

View PostHelmstif, on 02 February 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:


Lemme give you a hint. A Large Laser fires for one second and has a 3-second cooldown, making it 4 seconds for a whole cycle. A 3D has four energy hardpoints, along with Jumpjets.


Also, to OP: 2LL with 12 DHS? HAHAHAHAHA


Been there, done that... 4 LLs was pretty underwhelming in my opinion. It's versatile, but lacking in terms of stopping power. 2xUAC5 + 4xML will cut a target down in literally half the time. And if you REALLY want to see stuff melt - try the 1X with a pair of PPCs on the right arm, a UAC5 and 3 MLs. Absolutely brutal ;)

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:16 AM

2xAC10 is nice,but due to hard point locations you'll have many convergence problems.So,if I were you I'd put AC10 into torso slot and use it against slower/distant targets,generally anytime I'd have an opportunity to shoot aimed shot.
LBX10 in arm slot should be more be useful in close-range brawl with faster mechs when you don't have comfortable time to aim, for example attacking these annoying lights.
Weapon groups - 1 lasers in arms,2 lasers in shoulders,3 LBX,4 AC10.
In close brawl,you'd use lasers and LBX,occasionally AC10.On longer ranges,AC10 with shoulder lasers,if able arm-mounted ones as well.

CTF-3D draft

#9 Soulscour

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:52 AM

Since the recent patch try this
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1a72bdcbca898f2

If players dont like being shot by dual AC20 at 200m chances are they wont like being shot by this at 700m

Edited by Soulscour, 07 February 2013 - 05:43 AM.


#10 Chrithu

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:05 PM

View PostSoulscour, on 07 February 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Since the recent patch try this
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1a72bdcbca898f2

If players dont like being shot by dual AC20 at 200m chances are they wont like being shot by this at 700m


Hmm. Usually I stay away from FOTM builds (and the jump sniping 3D clearly is one). Thus far I am quite succesful with the 2LL, 2ML, 2 AC/10. Especially the 2 AC/10 are extremely effective on parts that are stripped from armor already.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

View PostSoulscour, on 07 February 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Since the recent patch try this
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1a72bdcbca898f2

If players dont like being shot by dual AC20 at 200m chances are they wont like being shot by this at 700m


Poptart sniper pulled directly from MW4, good thing MWO has too much cover.

I have seen a few of these things, best used on Forest Colony. The gigantic stretch of water is a firing range.





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