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#1 Grugore

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:46 PM

Complain so much. It's pretty simple. Because they suck and want to blame it on something, or someone else. This isn't aimed at all pugs. There are some good ones out there. I'm referring to the ones who have no clue what teamwork is, go off on there own and die. I was in a drop yesterday. Me, my team mate and another pug did great damage and had several kills. The other five pugs had double digit damage. I see this all the time. All the ones complaining about premades and such, It's being worked on. They're going to have a match maker that matches players based on skill. When that happens, you can all play with your fellow no skill, no teamwork pugs and I can play with some players who actually have some skill. So until then, shut your yap. We're all tired of hearing it.

EDIT: I've been getting a lot of grief over this post. I'd just like to point out that pugs continue to complain, even though they know that a fix is in the works. Why keep complaining about something that's being fixed? That's what I was trying to say.

Edited by Grugore, 02 February 2013 - 08:09 PM.


#2 Ranek Blackstone

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:47 PM

Ypu can rework the MM all you want, but until there is a way to communicate with your dropmates in real time, you'll have issues with pugs.

#3 Grugore

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:53 PM

View PostRanek Blackstone, on 02 February 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

Ypu can rework the MM all you want, but until there is a way to communicate with your dropmates in real time, you'll have issues with pugs.

True. But my statement is still valid.

#4 Chrithu

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

Here we go again. All Pugs are whiners that can't play the game for ****. And because of that whatever opinion they express is not valid.

That is about the 50th time I've read that argument this week alone.

Oh and just as I see it. You're a founder right?

Didn't you know that your opinion isn't valid here either because you're a dumb fanboy that was stupid enough to throw out money for an unfinished beta game?

#5 DEN_Ninja

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

At this point I'd love to tell OP off. However I have found that there are reasonable people on here that would love to do the same.

This one will ignite and probably take care of itself. Pacify now.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

View PostGrugore, on 02 February 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

Complain so much. It's pretty simple. Because they suck and want to blame it on something, or someone else. This isn't aimed at all pugs. There are some good ones out there. I'm referring to the ones who have no clue what teamwork is, go off on there own and die. I was in a drop yesterday. Me, my team mate and another pug did great damage and had several kills. The other five pugs had double digit damage. I see this all the time. All the ones complaining about premades and such, It's being worked on. They're going to have a match maker that matches players based on skill. When that happens, you can all play with your fellow no skill, no teamwork pugs and I can play with some players who actually have some skill. So until then, shut your yap. We're all tired of hearing it.


posts like this are 1000 times more annoying then PuGs that are upset about being stomped all the time. Atleast they have a reason to be upset and b****y.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

The weak will try and form systems around them instead of forming around the systems. They can't adapt so they "die", in this case... QQ, don't get their way, and then quit

#8 FerretGR

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:02 PM

Don't think all Founders feel the way the OP does, JP.

Well done OP: you're tired of hearing about it so you made another thread about it.

#9 ARCTICF0X

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

It isn't always the PUGs fault, I see a lot of groups that believe all players in their game need to be psychic.

Match started as usual and team split into two groups. I was in a group of 5 that went tunnel on Forest Colony the others went water I think. There was no talk on chat, just instinct to stay in a group as we moved over the map. Just as we exited the tunnel, one of the guys that had not been in the group of 5 starts abusing us for not giving the LRM boat support. Now I was in a Stalker and it takes awhile to get all the way to the end of the tunnel, enough time for anyone to say 'Hey - give us a hand out here'.

Now we were no where near this LRM boat and had no idea what his needs were as we were half way across the map leaving a tunnel. Yet somehow after not having said a word the entire game, he expected that we could all hear his private VOIP channel and act accordingly.

Those 3 guys all died alone out on the water somewhere and their last remaining words were 'Stupid PUGS'.

Now if you don't communicate with the people on your team, WTF do you expect FFS.

I think it was more a case of that group going out on their own, thinking they were top **** and could handle all the enemy by themselves which then turned to flaming when they started dying.

I know this probably isn't the type of PUGs you are referring to, but man some premades (more just friends playing together in a group) are even stupider than PUGs...

#10 AlexWildeagle

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:04 PM

How ignorant can you be? This has been addressed and explained so many times it's just sad to see it come up again.

#11 Ter Ushaka

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:13 PM

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#12 Chrithu

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:13 PM

View PostFerretGR, on 02 February 2013 - 06:02 PM, said:

Don't think all Founders feel the way the OP does, JP.


I know that.

Just wnated to present to him an argument that's just as dumb as the one he just made.

Any careful reader of these forums knows that there are founders and non-founders equally spread across both sides of just about any ongoing discussion in these forums.

Same goes for skilled and unskilled people being found in both premades and PUGs/Solos.

The reason the unskilled people are more obvious in the random teams are that they aren't carried by a team that's following a plan.

Plus virtually EVERYONE that tries this game for the first time will be found in a random group. <- This very point makes the strawman of the less skilled PUGs/SOLOs whining around a strawman. Because 90% of the examples of teammates in a PUG/Random group doing little to none damage is caused by those people doing their first steps in the game. And those usually do not complain about being Pugstomped.

But what's even more funny are the stupid dumbshits that complain about getting the matches of their premade 4 man ruined by the PUGs that filled their ranks. Only to then tell PUGs not to complain about premades, when obviously they both want the same: get rid of each other.

Edited by Jason Parker, 02 February 2013 - 06:15 PM.


#13 Ter Ushaka

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:18 PM

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#14 MechFrog1

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:19 PM

The last few generations have been trained to feel really good about themselves and also sheltered from any sort of failure. When you do this to kids, they are completely incapable of handling any sort of discovery of shortcomings as an adult. Something as simple as losing a match in a video game creates a wildly disproportionate emotional response and desire to ascribe blame on an outside party.

Unfortunately, the psychosis cannot be untrained without extensive therapy and training.

#15 Autsj

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

Oh no! People complaining! Now I need to complain about people complaining! Need something to complain about!

#16 Ter Ushaka

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:24 PM

Can I complain about posts?

#17 Autsj

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

View PostTer Ushaka, on 02 February 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Can I complain about posts?


Then you'd be complaining about people posting complaints about people complaining, where would this madness lead?

#18 Texas Merc

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

the post complaint forum is that-a-way!

/me points











/me cries

#19 Ryvucz

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

This topic looks new to me.

#20 octatonic

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

good post op. thank you for bringing this up



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