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[Skadi]

Go play MWLL and think this over.

Demolisher > Mech.

[Sephlock]

I just want to play as a http://www.sarna.net...Buster#Armament

[Vassago Rain]

Oni Ralas, on 10 February 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Hmmmm...howabout when you reach a certain requisition amount from holding a cap, you get a small tank set dropshipped in? AI controlled to keep it fair -- just an extra boost to firepower? I dunno...lots of stuff can be done

No thanks.
Mechs only.

[Ashnod]

http://www.sarna.net...i/Demolisher_II
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Challenger
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Alacorn
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Burke
http://www.sarna.net...(Combat_Vehicle)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Athena
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Partisan
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Rommel
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Von_Luckner
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/SRM_Carrier (You thought SRM cats were bad..)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Manticore
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ajax
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Zhukov


Yea.. Just a little bit of firepower..

[Tyler Durden]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

People have this weird idea that tanks are second-rate units in the source material.

Tanks in BattleTech are inferior to Mechs. Any time you hit the side of a tank, there is a chance you do critical damage to it. So, if implemented properly, tanks would be powerful, but fragile.

I feel this is a missing element to the mwo game.

[Ashnod]

Sephlock, on 10 February 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

I just want to play as a http://www.sarna.net...Buster#Armament

Checkout config a of this
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sabutai

[Sephlock]

Come on, I'd love to divebomb an atlas in my Mechbuster, firing as I drop and desperately trying to ram my nosecone into the Atlas' eye .

[Ashnod]

Tyler Durden, on 10 February 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Tanks in BattleTech are inferior to Mechs. Any time you hit the side of a tank, there is a chance you do critical damage to it. So, if implemented properly, tanks would be powerful, but fragile.

I feel this is a missing element to the mwo game.

No sir, there not inferior, maybe some of them can be.. But most can easily go toe to toe with a mech of its own weight class.. And we don't have through armor crits in MWO.. And some tanks have 17-20 tons + of armor

And did I mention that we have double armor values? So were looking at tanks with around 30-40 tons of armor equivalence..

Edited by Ashnod, 10 February 2013 - 02:56 PM.

[Sephlock]

On the other hand if they added in tanks they could just copy a lot of stuff from WoT and this would (theoretically) roflstomp WoT! (Please, let me dream...(

Edited by Sephlock, 10 February 2013 - 03:00 PM.

[Omigir]

[DrBlue62]

Ashnod, on 10 February 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

No sir, there not inferior, maybe some of them can be.. But most can easily go toe to toe with a mech of its own weight class.. And we don't have through armor crits in MWO.. And some tanks have 17-20 tons + of armor

And did I mention that we have double armor values? So were looking at tanks with around 30-40 tons of armor equivalence..

I have to ask what was the point of battlemechs then? I know nothing of battletech.

[Bryan Kerensky]

Aerospace fighters are also devastating against mechs not equipped to deal with them.

Even if you don't look at the source books, Clan Visigoth fighters are famed for carrying more weapons than mechs of a similar weight class.

Here's a taste of a 60tonner.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Visigoth

[Gremlich Johns]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

No.
Mechs only, please.

Combined Arms matches makes for much better gameplay. Try out MW:LL.

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 10 February 2013 - 03:15 PM.

[Stormwolf]

Ashnod, on 10 February 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

No sir, there not inferior, maybe some of them can be.. But most can easily go toe to toe with a mech of its own weight class.. And we don't have through armor crits in MWO.. And some tanks have 17-20 tons + of armor

And did I mention that we have double armor values? So were looking at tanks with around 30-40 tons of armor equivalence..

Tanks are completely boned:

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Weapons fire for Awesome AWS-9M ([color="8080b0"]Stormwolf[/color])
Streak SRM 2 at Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy); needs 6, rolls 9 : - Direct Blow - (w/ +2 bonus)2 missile(s) hit (using Right Side table).

Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) takes 2 damage to TU.
33 Armor remaining.

Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) takes 2 damage to RS.
Armor destroyed, 7 Internal Structure remaining
Critical hit on RS. Roll is (8+1) = 9; Engine destroyed. Immobile.

Streak SRM 2 at Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy); needs 6, rolls 12 : - Direct Blow - (w/ +4 bonus)2 missile(s) hit (using Right Side table).

Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) takes 2 damage to RS.
5 Internal Structure remaining
Critical hit on RS. Roll is (7+2) = 9; Fuel Tank Hit (Vehicle Explodes).
*** Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) DESTROYED by fuel explosion! ***

Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) takes 2 damage to FR.
36 Armor remaining.
Critical hit on movement system. Roll is 8; (w/ +0 bonus)
Moderate damage, +2 to driving skill rolls, -1 MP.

Medium Pulse Laser at Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy); needs 6, rolls 2 : misses.

ER PPC at Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy); needs 4, rolls 7 : - Direct Blow - hits (using Right Side table) RS
Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) takes 11 damage to RS.
SECTION DESTROYED,
Critical hit on RS. Roll is (4+1) = 5; no effect.

ER PPC at Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy); needs 4, rolls 9 : - Direct Blow - hits (using Right Side table) RS
Demolisher Heavy Tank (Other guy) takes 11 damage to RS.

[InsaneWolf]

Nawww son

[Oni Ralas]

MWO cannot simply be cod with robots. Its a huge franchise, lots of room to play. Expanding into large, immersive gameplay will be needed for long term viability. That may not be tanks, but doing the 8v8 tango will eventually burn out. Tanks are one aspect, perhaps not to the degree you guys have started brining forward. At any rate, just an idea.

[Sephlock]

Oni Ralas, on 10 February 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

MWO cannot simply be cod with robots. Its a huge franchise, lots of room to play. Expanding into large, immersive gameplay will be needed for long term viability. That may not be tanks, but doing the 8v8 tango will eventually burn out. Tanks are one aspect, perhaps not to the degree you guys have started brining forward. At any rate, just an idea.

Oooh I'd like to pilot an AC-130 style Aerospace gunship .

[Grumbling Coot]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

No.
Mechs only, please.

Way to "rain" on their parade.

[Alex Warden]

Vahnn, on 10 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

I was thinking about this the other day.

Having not only 'mechs running around, but perhaps allowing players to drive non-'mech vehicles... Such as tanks, and maybe even some light aircraft.

Just a fun thought!

has been clearly denied by PGI... no player controlled units other than Mechs... maybe, just maybe, AI controlled ones later

[General Taskeen]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

Living legends tried, and mechs, being what they are, are far inferior to both planes and tanks.

Wrong. AeroSpace and Tanks are easily annihilated by good Mech players in MW:LL.

Edited by General Taskeen, 10 February 2013 - 03:52 PM.