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[Milkshakes]

I keep seeing the same theme over and over. CTF w/ 2-4 ER/PPC, jump jets, and a Gauss cannon. I played two rounds in a row against two teams with at least 4 of that config. Anyone have any thoughts on how to stop them?

[Skizzak]

Splat - I thought referred to short range missles that cover your body and spread damage out. I think you are referring to poptarts - which hide behind cover and use JJs to see over and pop some shots off.

My advice? Stay close to cover and get in close. Then rain on their parade.

[jakucha]

Be somewhat fast and focus fire his Gauss canon as it can blow up easily. I 1v1'd a Cataphract with a Gauss cannon earlier in my 4sp and beat him, just kept moving so he'd miss some and went behind buildings.

Edited by jakucha, 16 February 2013 - 06:18 PM.

[Redmond Spiderhammer]

I haven't put much thought into it... I will say that splataphract is a poor nickname for this build. lets come up with something a little more original and distinct.

Also.. a cataphract that can fit 4 ER PPCs and a cause 'cannon'... somebody needs to post the build on it

[dal10]

if you see a CTF with 4 ppcs and a gauss rifle shoot it, it either has no armor or a tiny engine. 43 tons of weapons. plus 3 tons of ammo equals 14 tons for everything else. - 3.5 for internals. - 1 for jumpjets leavint 9.5 for armor and engine.

[Vassago Rain]

Milkshakes, on 16 February 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

I keep seeing the same theme over and over. CTF w/ 2-4 ER/PPC, jump jets, and a Gauss cannon. I played two rounds in a row against two teams with at least 4 of that config. Anyone have any thoughts on how to stop them?

Swat them out of the sky.

[Redmond Spiderhammer]

dal10, on 16 February 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

if you see a CTF with 4 ppcs and a gauss rifle shoot it, it either has no armor or a tiny engine. 43 tons of weapons. plus 3 tons of ammo equals 14 tons for everything else. - 3.5 for internals. - 1 for jumpjets leavint 9.5 for armor and engine.

and those 4 ERPPCs are going to be AWESOME with just the engine mounted Heatsinks!!

[Flyby215]

Yeah I hate those things... facing them down I"m glad I made it a personal rule to use only maxed engines in all my mechs; usually I'm fast enough to be a really hard target. Up close and personal, just keep moving behind them; to pack that kind of weaponry most of them have pretty small engines and can't turn very quick. If you do end up in their sights, turn your torso quickly. Nothing ****** off a sniper more than blowing off an arm rather than the killshot (well maybe missing and dying is the ultimate ****-off, but you get my point ).

[TygerLily]

They are light bait, streak them to death! In the immortal words of Johnny Rico..."Kill'em! Kill'em all!"

Edited by TygerLily, 16 February 2013 - 06:27 PM.

[Milkshakes]

I admire the math skills of some of the replies here! You are all capable of adding and subtracting but how about reading? In English to denote the possibility of one of two outcomes you can use a slash (e.g I can carry 4 kittens/3 puppies) much like was specified above. Indeed, to tell of a possible number a hyphen is commonly used (e.g. I can carry 4-8 kittens at a time) to seperate the lower and upper bounds.

In the simplest of terms, read the slash as 'or' and the hyphen as 'to.'

/end English lesson

Now as for the real replies, I keep my builds pretty quick but if they have 2 or more on a team its almost impossible to make it close enough. Another problem lies in the fact that they are capable of engaging at pretty much any range. Its hard to do an evaluation if you can't even get close enough.

PS. The name poptart is nice but it has no indication the specific chassis. If you've got a better one I'm open to it.

Edited by Milkshakes, 16 February 2013 - 06:32 PM.

[Vulkan]

Seeing all these jump snipers brings back bad memories of Mechwarrior 4.

[Ghogiel]

splataphract would be what a 2X with 2 SRM6 and LBX10?

[Weeble]

I have ~300k xp in the 3D and it's not all that. Works best against guys that don't use cover well. I won't tell you how to counter me but it's not hard. Think about the build, what it's weaknesses must be, and use that against them. It will come down to piloting- can you take advantage of them or will they take advantage of you?

[Biglead]

Milkshakes, on 16 February 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

I admire the math skills of some of the replies here! You are all capable of adding and subtracting but how about reading? In English to denote the possibility of one of two outcomes you can use a slash (e.g I can carry 4 kittens/3 puppies) much like was specified above. Indeed, to tell of a possible number a hyphen is commonly used (e.g. I can carry 4-8 kittens at a time) to seperate the lower and upper bounds.

In the simplest of terms, read the slash as 'or' and the hyphen as 'to.'

/end English lesson

Now as for the real replies, I keep my builds pretty quick but if they have 2 or more on a team its almost impossible to make it close enough. Another problem lies in the fact that they are capable of engaging at pretty much any range. Its hard to do an evaluation if you can't even get close enough.

PS. The name poptart is nice but it has no indication the specific chassis. If you've got a better one I'm open to it.

LOL

P.S. Tart-a-phract.

Edited by Biglead, 16 February 2013 - 06:46 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

Milkshakes, on 16 February 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

I admire the math skills of some of the replies here! You are all capable of adding and subtracting but how about reading? In English to denote the possibility of one of two outcomes you can use a slash (e.g I can carry 4 kittens/3 puppies) much like was specified above. Indeed, to tell of a possible number a hyphen is commonly used (e.g. I can carry 4-8 kittens at a time) to seperate the lower and upper bounds.

In the simplest of terms, read the slash as 'or' and the hyphen as 'to.'

/end English lesson

Now as for the real replies, I keep my builds pretty quick but if they have 2 or more on a team its almost impossible to make it close enough. Another problem lies in the fact that they are capable of engaging at pretty much any range. Its hard to do an evaluation if you can't even get close enough.

PS. The name poptart is nice but it has no indication the specific chassis. If you've got a better one I'm open to it.

They rise at speed X. You know your projectiles move at Y. They'll be airborn for Z.
So if they have all the guns and jets, they're going to be very slow, undersunk, have no armor, or all three.

Ergo, you swat them out of the sky.

[Biglead]

Vassago Rain, on 16 February 2013 - 06:45 PM, said:

They rise at speed X. You know your projectiles move at Y. They'll be airborn for Z.
So if they have all the guns and jets, they're going to be very slow, undersunk, have no armor, or all three.

Ergo, you swat them out of the sky.

1) Fast firing direct LoS weapons
2) Use speed to flank them(A1 with a big engine and lots of SRM's). They have the lateral arm movement of an elephant.

[Milkshakes]

Well I am starting to see the three types of reply here:

A. Useful information pertinent to the post
B. Snarky douchebag (most likely uses that configuration)
C. Person blaming my piloting for all issues

Let me be specific again. I would request that if your post doesn't conform to the model of example A then I would politely ask you to slam your fingers in a car door.

Now, the map that poses the most difficulty is Forest Colony. The wide open plain between the starts is pretty conducive to a couple "snipers" hanging back. If the team is pushing up and your team hangs back you have no choice but to play purely defensively, especially if starting on the low ground.

[zhaocore]

splataphract?....seriously?....i mean...seriously?

splatasault
splatamando
splatastalker

STAHP WITH THE TERMINOLOGY.

[Spicy Horse]

I tried the Ilya with 2 PPCs and a Gauss because I saw them twice in two matches by different users. So I thought, what the hell. I feel the build has replaced my LRM casual build. By casual I mean, sit back, sip beverage of choice, and occasionally fire off a few rounds.

I was in one match where a Jenner set their sites on me. Since I am not proficient at ballistic speeds and leading a close in target moving at 130+, I was outmatched. Until my friends with LRMs brought the rain. I'd compare PPC/Gauss builds as similar to LRM builds. Keep within support range of your allies and Location, Location, Location.

What do you do against them? That all depends on your build and which map. Are you close range but slow? Long range but fast? A glass cannon? There's more than one way to skin a cat... aphract that is. YYYEEEAAAAHHH!

[General Taskeen]

zhaocore, on 16 February 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

splatasault
splatamando
splatastalker

Good meme that.