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[BunnyWabbit]

Does this happen to anyone else? I swear it happens to me all the time where you shutdown and it doesnt power you back up at all. Its especially bad now that you cant power yourself back up once youve overheated because the thing always just powers up then powers back down.

[Minsc]

Did you know if you press P, then press P, then press P, then press P, your mech will do precisely what you just described? 1 press is all you need to turn back on.

[Taizan]

Moving this topic to the Player help sub forum, where it is more appropriate.

[BunnyWabbit]

Minsc, on 17 February 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Did you know if you press P, then press P, then press P, then press P, your mech will do precisely what you just described? 1 press is all you need to turn back on.

No heres the problem: You press p once and if its within a certain window of your mech powering up anyway it will power you up then power you down regardless of the clicks. Your assumption is wrong. Test it yourself.

[Redshift2k5]

I never press P to power back up. My mech will power up just fine if left to it's own devices.

One wonders how many heatsinks your mech has, your weapon loadout & how you use it(why are you overheating in the first place?), and if you are spending too much time in Caustic Valley's infamous caldera.

[BunnyWabbit]

Redshift2k5, on 17 February 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

I never press P to power back up. My mech will power up just fine if left to it's own devices.

One wonders how many heatsinks your mech has, your weapon loadout & how you use it(why are you overheating in the first place?), and if you are spending too much time in Caustic Valley's infamous caldera.

5 ppcs stalker. Yeah it overheats and sometimes I need to override it. I've had times where it never powers back up though and also as I described the power up mechanic is hugely flawed. Even if you press P only once if its within ~2 seconds of your mech powering up it will power up then shut back down. Test it for yourself. I guarantee pgi did not implement it to do this so im wondering if its happening to anyone else.

[Deathlike]

If you hit the override button after being forced to shutdown automatically, you actually are going to turn back on ASAP (it is kinda like its own power up button for forced auto-shutdown mechs).

If you let the auto-shutdown sequence power you up... it can actually take a while as I think the level required is 80% or less. I could be wrong on this. Caustic causing that to seem like forever makes total sense on a 5+ PPC stalker.

It is a bad idea to use the powerup button when you are auto-forced shutdown. It doesn't do what you think it would do, and shut you back down.

Edited by Deathlike, 17 February 2013 - 11:06 AM.

[BunnyWabbit]

Deathlike, on 17 February 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:

If you hit the override button after being forced to shutdown automatically, you actually are going to turn back on ASAP (it is kinda like its own power up button for forced auto-shutdown mechs).

If you let the auto-shutdown sequence power you up... it can actually take a while as I think the level required is 80% or less. I could be wrong on this. Caustic causing that to seem like forever makes total sense on a 5+ PPC stalker.

It is a bad idea to use the powerup button when you are auto-forced shutdown. It doesn't do what you think it would do, and shut you back down.

I thought the override button no longer works that way. Also sometimes I am forced to use the powerup button as like I stated earlier there are times when your mech will never power back up after overheating. I.E. a bug or something. I know its not supposed to be like this because when you do press P and eventually power back up and your heat is at like 20% or something meaning it didnt power you back up at 80%.

[Redshift2k5]

BunnyWabbit, on 17 February 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

5 ppcs stalker. Yeah it overheats and sometimes I need to override it. I've had times where it never powers back up though and also as I described the power up mechanic is hugely flawed. Even if you press P only once if its within ~2 seconds of your mech powering up it will power up then shut back down. Test it for yourself. I guarantee pgi did not implement it to do this so im wondering if its happening to anyone else.

I run a 4 PPC stalker.

I never need to press P, it will power up on it's own. If you alpha those 5 PPC when you're already high on the heat scale, you're looking at a HUGE spike over the maximum heat . Try to wait longer before hitting P at all and see if that improves your experience.

[BunnyWabbit]

Redshift2k5, on 17 February 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

I run a 4 PPC stalker.

I never need to press P, it will power up on it's own. If you alpha those 5 PPC when you're already high on the heat scale, you're looking at a HUGE spike over the maximum heat . Try to wait longer before hitting P at all and see if that improves your experience.

Its pretty much random whether or not it will power up and power down or whether it will just power you up. I tend to never hit it just because I'd say 80% of the time it will just power you up then power you straight down. The problem with doing this is when it does bug out and never let you power back up automatically you can be sitting dry for 30 seconds or more waiting before you realize its never going to power you back up. Most of the time when this happens I die just because you cant sit somewhere for that long exposed and live. I just find it super frustrating considering the way O used to be implemented would never make this problem happen because you could always press it to power up without worrying of powering down after.

[CmdrPoopyPants]

I tend to over heat quite a bit on some of my builds.. and I've -never- had a mech not start back up on it's own. I have, accidently, hit P when I meant to hit O while shutdown, so I started up then shut down.. then I hit P 3 or 4 times to turn back on... then as my mech went on and off and on and off I cursed the stupid queueing thing they put in, waited a few seconds to see where I was, and pressed P one last time to turn back on. .. and given that O does nothing -after- you overheat, I should just get used to sitting there and letting the mech do it's thing. The -one- time I managed to press O -before- I overheated, to see what it would do.. I blew out 1/2 my systems, an arm, and most of my armor on that side.. note to self: don't override at 99% heat and do an alpha in a hot running mech

[Koniving]

Here's another question. Are you usually in the mouth of the caldera (volcano/crater) when you shut down like this?

Commandos with only 10 heat sinks, and sometimes PPC stalkers/awesomes that fire in the caldera can't power back on for a really long time. Sometimes exploding regardless -- whether remaining off or powering back on. This is because it is REALLY hot there, and these people are not being too bright. At around 3 this morning I saw a commando get auto-shut down in the caldera. Guy was lucky, as he spent 2 minutes shut down and completely ignored by the enemy. Eventually he self-destructed when his pilot's hand went toward the button to power back on.

[Zerethon]

Just a worthwhile note that this issue has only really started since the last patch.

Previously, if you overheated, hitting P -OR- O would instantly start you restarting, regardless of heat level

Now, pressing P starts you restarting once you power down completely after a delay which previously did not exist, and pressing O Puts you in "Override" mode, where you start taking internal damage if your heat passes 100, but you won't shut down.

Overall? The queue'd powerup system is the flaw, it needs to go away or clear any queue'd P Commands until after you're completely rebooted, then it should watch for new ones.