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#181 arghmace

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:13 PM

View PostLyrik, on 19 February 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

And for the people who want to wait for a new patch: Think about it. Without tester there won't be any meaningfull patch for ELO. Hickups are expected when introducing new features.


Quoted for truth.

#182 Rumrunner2

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:13 PM

What matchmaking? For my feeling the matchmaker is completly broken. There is no langer any sencefull matchmaking.

First match 5 assault+ one Raven3L in enemy team, we had NO Lights and only 2 Assault. They killed us in no time.
Next match we had 4 assault and one Raven 3L, enemy team only 2 assault and no scouts. We stomped them in 4minutes. Such imba matches after waiting 2minutes for a match? And very often dont get a match? It ****** !

Really frustrating, not worth to spend any time until its fixed.

Edited by Rumrunner2, 19 February 2013 - 03:16 PM.


#183 Xendojo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:16 PM

So....where is this ELO stat so i can see it?

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostJuiceCaboose, on 19 February 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...79-matchmaking/ - scroll to the bottom and read the update. It's anticipated.


Don't mind it taking a while to find me a match, that's part of proper matchmaking.

Do mind getting "Failed to find a match" nine attempts out of ten. That's absolutely terrible, and is frankly inexcusable for folks burning premium time.

I consider myself a pretty forgiving guy. I hate it when forumites trash on a game developer for not making their game absolutely perfect the first time through, especially since everyone and their mothers has a different, often contradictory notion of 'perfect'. I'm not a game developer, I don't know how hard it is to do this stuff, I don't know much of anything about it, really.

That said...PGI? I can't play your game. Your game will not allow me to play it right now. That's not something that can be allowed to stand, guys. This needs fixing, and while I'm willing to call it an honest goof, I'm not willing to just brush it off and say "Meh, beta's beta." Beta is beta - but you can't do any testing if the game does not work.

#185 arghmace

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostXendojo, on 19 February 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

So....where is this ELO stat so i can see it?


It's hidden unfortunately. Please make it visible.

#186 Redoxin

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostRumrunner2, on 19 February 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

What matchmaking? For my feeling the matchmaker is completly broken. There is no langer any sencefull matchmaking.

First match 5 assault+ one Raven3L in enemy team, we had NO Lights and only 2 Assault. They killed us in no time.
Next match we had 4 assault and one Raven 3L, enemy team only 2 assault and no scouts. We stomped them in 4minutes. Such imba matches after waiting 2minutes for a match? And very often dont get a match? It ****** !

Really frustrating, not worth to spend any time until its fixed.

There is matchmaking now, but its not matched by weight anymore but by Elo instead.
My win rate dropped considerably from about 75% to 50%, which I guess was the goal of this.

#187 Deathlike

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

Give the system time, as people are patching (there are issues with that as it is).

Most of you that have been either very good or in good premades (or pug stompers) are probably having really high ELO. You need to play a few matches (and probably lose a #) to properly "readjust" your ELO score to a more proper value.

Not having the ELO aspect in the first place has probably screwed with the numbers, and thus anyone who's won a lot (or at least, more often than not) in the past two weeks has their ELO inflated.

For those with TL;DR, read the first sentence, before the comma.

ELO range does need to be adjusted/account for # of players on the server. That is probably why this isn't working quite right.

Edited by Deathlike, 19 February 2013 - 03:27 PM.


#188 Aggressor666

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

View Postarghmace, on 19 February 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

I'm quite surprised how easily people give up. For all we know, all could be well by tomorrow. This as a response to all these "see ya next month!" -posts.

well people seem to forget the game is BETA we dont even have all the I.S. mechs let alone clan mechs hell we only JUST got a 5th map today (not that Ive seen it)
people need to relax and just keep trying

#189 That Guy

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

ELO seems way too strict. i have had 2 games in an HOUR. TWO. i have spent 8 mins playing in the last hour.

and both of them were ROFLstomps by premade teams with tons of SSRMs and ECM. i know they were premades because they said so, and all had matching faction badges


relax the ELO, because it really isnt helping.

Edited by That Guy, 19 February 2013 - 03:33 PM.


#190 MechaLooz

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostAggressor666, on 19 February 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

well people seem to forget the game is BETA we dont even have all the I.S. mechs let alone clan mechs hell we only JUST got a 5th map today (not that Ive seen it)
people need to relax and just keep trying


Ok the game is in Beta but I am still paying full price for premium time or heroes mech. So is it too much to ask to be able to play ?

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:30 PM

2 matches in over an hour......second match I overheated and could not restart the mech. Gotta love a game they don't test a patch before putting it out to the masses. And please no fanboy respond with "it's Beta" becasue it's not....they say it's "open beta" but that's what all the games are doing now with no launch date in sight.

Just bad!

#192 Conjure

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

Same problems here. One in ten trys I get a match and that's only every half hour or so. :/

Every sinlge match has been river city too. Getting really tired of the same map ten times in a row day after day >_<

Edited by Conjure, 19 February 2013 - 03:37 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:39 PM

Hey, buddy, got a match?
Seems for at least myself, when I exit the launcher and come back in, it ends the endless "can't find a match"
try it.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:40 PM

View PostThontor, on 19 February 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

please no.. we don't need people artificially inflating their rating just for bragging rights.. please keep it hidden as a tool for the matchmaker only

Artificially inflating like trying to win? Yeah that would be terrible right. Cant give people an incentive to win.

#195 Donas

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:40 PM

View PostElLocoMarko, on 19 February 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

ALWAYSE CONTACT SUPPORT
support@mwomercs.com


Cant stress this enough.

#196 Jabilo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

Am having some trouble finding matches - often it says failed to find match.

However when I find a match the matchmaking seems to work brilliantly - very even games with people about my level.

I like it!

#197 TOGSolid

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

View PostDonas, on 19 February 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:


Cant stress this enough.

Yup. They responded within minutes to my query about the PUGs vs 8 man problem. It's definitely worth sending them an email.


View PostThontor, on 19 February 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

other than that, there is the problem of people judging others based on their rating... that always poisons a community and is something I would prefer not to have in MWO

See: World of Tanks.

Edited by TOGSolid, 19 February 2013 - 03:48 PM.


#198 Jello2142

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

Well out of my 1.5 hour Tuesday gaming window I spent about an hour of it in failed launches. Going to spend my other half hour playing PoE

Hopefully things sort out sooner rather than later.

#199 Redoxin

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostThontor, on 19 February 2013 - 03:44 PM, said:

no, trying to win is not artificial, that is the intended way of doing it

there are ways of artificially inflating the rating beyond your true skill level, it's been done in other games using a similar system. the methods are pretty complicated and I don't want to get into them here.

other than that, there is the problem of people judging others based on their rating... that always poisons a community and is something I would prefer not to have in MWO

Well for me much of my motivation to try to win is gone now with the hidden Elo. I know that whatever I do, if I always try hard or alyways mess around, I will always end up with 50% wins in the long term. I will always earn about the same amount of cbills per game, no matter what i do. If I improve, I will never know that because I will still win 50%. Its really, really boring to not know you Elo.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

View Postcosti, on 19 February 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

For me it's improving, failed to find a game once and two next ones were almost instant.

IMHO we need to wait a couple of days, I guess many people (especially from Europe) don't play on patch day or come later, because it often took quite a long time.


Not talking about the fact, that we got shiny 7 hrs of time delay. ;-)



Besides: MM does a fine job so far. The matches i got in were balanced, didn´t have a totally overpowered enemy yet.
...but...now it takes several attempts to get into a match.

Lets hope, the MM figures this out :P





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