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#21 Waswat

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:35 PM

ITT: OP is SO busy in his life they can't wait for 2 or 3 minutes like any normal rated matches in 'moba-style' games with a playerpool like this (Heroes of Newerth and Hawken springs to mind).

Sure, the problems considering still unbalanced teams probably need to get fixed but you seriously can't wait 3 minutes?
Maybe it's time for you to try Call of Duty or League of Legends?

#22 Jakob Knight

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostWaswat, on 19 February 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

ITT: OP is SO busy in his life they can't wait for 2 or 3 minutes like any normal rated matches in 'moba-style' games with a playerpool like this (Heroes of Newerth and Hawken springs to mind).

Sure, the problems considering still unbalanced teams probably need to get fixed but you seriously can't wait 3 minutes?
Maybe it's time for you to try Call of Duty or League of Legends?


Try 30-45 minutes and let me know, because that is how long I waited trying to find a match before I decided just to quit trying.

#23 DamageControl

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

The new match making feature seems to be struggling a little. I actually wonder if there are enough people playing to use this kind of system. Just waited 10 minutes to find a game and got matched in a random group vs an 8 man premade....

Edited by DamageControl, 19 February 2013 - 03:41 PM.


#24 Waswat

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostJakob Knight, on 19 February 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:


Try 30-45 minutes and let me know, because that is how long I waited trying to find a match before I decided just to quit trying.

Yep, sure. I don't have that problem at the moment and i understand that's frustrating. But OP is arguing 3 minutes is too long.

#25 Skull Ringer

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostKKillian, on 19 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:


If the current system already takes too long for you, you think segregating it further would speed it up?


you "segregate" when you try to put multiple teams on the two main sides..
You De-segregate by just taking a pool of 16 players into just two teams..then just use ton and battle score to swap players till you get as close to even as can..would be Very fast

#26 TurinAlexander

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

I was just in a match with a dev and he asked how many times it took to be able to join a game. I'd say that they're at at least looking at things closely.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__1922353

#28 Serapth

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

View PostMatthew Craig, on 19 February 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:





I had a feeling it was lone wolves only getting the shaft, or there would be a much bigger outcry. I imagine it was the roll of premade filler that was causing the longest problems, in that if you had enough premades playing, but they didn't need your particular brand of filler, you were screwed.


Nice to hear there is a hotfix coming in, it's pretty horrible.

But the matches I've gotten into have been epic... nice seeing what happens to people when actually match on skill, instead of just having teamspeak and premade advantages.

#29 Chemie

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

QA at its best!

yes, lone wolf was taking me 4-5 tries. Perhaps a high ELO pug has no other pugs to match against? This then forces high ELO who often 4 or 8 man to ALWAYS 4 or 8 man to get a match. great.

#30 NocturnalBeast

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

LOL, this is peotic justice for all the people who whined endlessly about how unfair the old matchmaking system was. Unfortunately though, I will be stuck in these same queues when I get online later tonight.

Edited by Edward Steiner, 19 February 2013 - 04:20 PM.


#31 Eric darkstar Marr

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

Ugh this sucks after my last win I always fail to find a match, guess I need to play like crap, or let my son play my account at least. He is getting into games....

#32 Serapth

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

View PostEdward Steiner, on 19 February 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

LOL, this is peotic justice for all the people who whined endlessly about how unfair the old matchmaking system was. Unfortunately though, I will be stuck in these same queues when I get online later tonight.

LOL, this is peotic justice for all the people who whined endlessly about how unfair the old matchmaking system was. Unfortunately though, I will be stuck in these same queues when I get online later tonight.



It was a bug, there was an emergency patch to fix things.

At the end of the day, the only people that are QQing after this patch are the people that padded their stats pubstomping and are now getting it, without lube.

Even with the long waits, the matches have been MUCCCCCCCHHHH better.

#33 HighlandCoo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

http://mwomercs.com/...53#entry1922353

Gutted. Was looking forward to this. Hope you guys figure it out soon. Good luck!

#34 NocturnalBeast

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

View PostSerapth, on 19 February 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:



It was a bug, there was an emergency patch to fix things.

At the end of the day, the only people that are QQing after this patch are the people that padded their stats pubstomping and are now getting it, without lube.

Even with the long waits, the matches have been MUCCCCCCCHHHH better.


You quoted my double post before I was able to fix it. My post was not intended to be redundant. Also, many pugs who mistakenly believed they were always getting pug stomped were probably just below average skill players.

#35 MischiefSC

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

The problem with a public beta is that people assume public beta means it's a full game for them to play, just short some features.

Beta means still testing. It means in fact that they're still introducing, testing and balancing things and that you are helping with that.

Of course it needs some tweaking. We're not even 24 hours into it. By 72 hours I betcha it'll be rockin' along.

#36 kubilai

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

I think it needs more than tweaking. Trying to launch as a lone wolf and it searches for 2-3 minutes then fails to find a match. So far 6 trys and I haven't gotten into a game yet.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:33 PM

I wish the wait times were less as well.

#38 Ntwadumela

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

Can I get a premium time refund if I have two hours to play and half of it is spent "Searching...." and "Failed to find a match." ??

Full disclosure...I am out of premium time, but I was about to buy more. Now I am gonna wait til I can actually play fairly continuously. I hate downtime.

#39 Arkmaus

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostSerapth, on 19 February 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:


This...

Plus, I would rather play 5 or 6 balanced matches an hour than 15 rolls.



I'd rather get stomped a few times and actually get to play. Earlier, I got into a total of 1 match in 1 hours time.

Sorry, I'd rather get stomped into oblivion than look at a little circle for an hour.

Edited by Arkmaus, 19 February 2013 - 04:51 PM.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostChemie, on 19 February 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

First, I know they said they would work to improve but 2-3 minutes is too long even to start. It should wait 30 seconds and then widen the search and drop you by 1 minute no matter what.

Waiting 2-3 min for a 5 min game is plain stupid.


yes really, have you PLAYED any other ELO matchmaker type games? HoN?LoL?DOTA? read my post. stop complaining. ELO tuning takes a while even for a 5v5 match in those games. in MWO it's trying to match 8v8 or 12v12 in ADDITION to trying to match the mech class/weight you are driving. the wait is going to be UNAVOIDABLE. that's the definition of a pool based matchmaking system. you need to have sufficient people in the pool to make the matchmaker work.

what would help more than whining about the wait time, is suggestions for MWO to give us something to do while waiting. such as spectating, or navigating our mechlab, or watching vidoes.

and in fact, i already do some of that because i can have a browser open next to the MWO client.





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