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[Kin3ticX]

Any changes in the future to make the other light mech/variants more viable?

[Biglead]

Matchmaking

[FactorlanP]

I've been happily popping Commandos and Ravens in the face with AC20s and Gauss slugs since the patch that greatly improved the lag shield...

Seeing a lot more Jenners on the battlefield lately too.

[Kin3ticX]

FactorlanP, on 16 February 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

I've been happily popping Commandos and Ravens in the face with AC20s and Gauss slugs since the patch that greatly improved the lag shield...

Seeing a lot more Jenners on the battlefield lately too.

I still drive my Jenner but I took out the XL and put a STD 270 to zombify it + 4 ML and 1x SRM 4. I try to make other light mechs pay hell to take down my Jenner.
Still, fighting against ECM/Streaks is an uphill battle

Edited by Kin3ticX, 16 February 2013 - 03:49 PM.

[Kin3ticX]

Biglead, on 16 February 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Matchmaking

So....matchmaking phase 3 right? Is it going to matchmake to the mechs and variant....or just by skill level?

[Livebait]

I don't think anything will change. Sad because you get forced to use those two builds. I like using my death knell but I can't do solo drops. I have to go with a an ecm mech to back me up or I'll be dead very quickly. If Ssrm's actually get fixed then other builds will be viable again. But at this point, Ssrm'***** the same spot 100% of the time and can fly out of your mech at 90 degree angles. Just bad programming. With all the BS tweaking PGI did with LRM's, you would think they could have spent a few moments making Ssrm's not so stupid easy to use.

[Redshift2k5]

There's nothing in the MMphase3 posts about matching variants or looking at ECM as a matchmaking factor

We will at least be getting a big fat MG buff, which will give multi-machine gun lights a job to do

[Gralzeim]

Didn't they make Streaks have a 100% hit rate as a sort of bandage fix while they were still working on the netcode? if that's the case, then I'd assume they'll be scaling that back at some point, now that lights are no longer pretending to be Nightcrawler.

[Grumbling Coot]

I've actually been using non-ecm lights to great success in the last day or so...though that is probably because the netcode update combined with the ecm problem have made almost all of the skilled pilots drive bigger mechs... The pack hunting trolls seem to have left for mechs that are less likely to get splatted by large mechs. Most of the light pilots left seem to be either noobs who don't know better or people that are tired of using ecm mechs.

It's a little sad really...

[Khobai]

Instead of balancing missiles properly they just threw ECM at it to bandaid it. Which created other problems...

PGI needs to undo what they did.

1) fix streaks so they no longer automatically hit. they dont autohit in tabletop and they shouldnt autohit in your game.

2) fix lrms so theyre no longer as accurate when fired indirectly. Its really unfair that lrm boats can do that kind of damage to you and you cant even return fire at them.

3) fix guardian ecm so that it has absolutely nothing to do with countering missiles. ams should be the only equipment that counters missiles.

[Biglead]

Matchmaking

Because all the horrible pilots who don't know to use a 3L or 2D will be all over the place. The ones that DO use them will be in a much higher bracket than the one you're in

Edited by Biglead, 16 February 2013 - 04:08 PM.

[Screech]

FactorlanP, on 16 February 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Seeing a lot more Jenners on the battlefield lately too.

Just had a Jenner on my team pop-tarting...

Yeah, it did not end well.

[UnseenFury]

Kin3ticX, on 16 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Any changes in the future to make the other light mech/variants more viable?

I made a huge thread about it, though I don't think devs are fully understand the problem.

[Flyby215]

I'm under the impression that the other ravens and other commandos are just there to make you grind to get upgrades for the ECM versions and were never meant to be played extensively.

Not sure if that was the point or not, but it sure feels that way sometimes...

Edit: Spelling

Edited by Flyby215, 18 February 2013 - 06:33 AM.

[Tennex]

if you want to fit a ER PPC on your jenners and spiders lol

Edited by Tennex, 16 February 2013 - 04:12 PM.

[NocturnalBeast]

Sorry, but although those builds are easier to do well with than other builds, they can not dominate a match, unless they have a good team supporting them. A Commando or Raven can easily be one-shotted with a carefully aimed head shot (yes this is difficult, but not impossible). You people who want to have everything nerfed, because you have not yet learned a way to counter it are rediculous, learn to play better. Yes, you will get upset by that, every time I see someone suggest that you learn to play better on the forums, I see people get angry and dismiss that, but it is the truth. And no, I am not the best player in the game and I do stupid things and lose as much as anyone else.

Edited by Edward Steiner, 16 February 2013 - 04:14 PM.

[So Booboolicious]

They dominate nothing if an opposing pilot has aim.

[Kin3ticX]

Edward Steiner, on 16 February 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Sorry, but although those builds are easier to do well with than other builds, they can not dominate a match, unless they have a good team supporting them. A Commando or Raven can easily be one-shotted with a carefully aimed head shot (yes this is difficult, but not impossible). You people who want to have everything nerfed, because you have not yet learned a way to counter it are rediculous, learn to play better. Yes, you will get upset by that, every time I see someone suggest that you learn to play better on the forums, I see people get angry and dismiss that, but it is the truth. And no, I am not the best player in the game and I do stupid things and lose as much as anyone else.

Not that they dominate the match but they do dominate the other scout mech chasis. Anybody can say just get in a bigger mech with bigger guns.

Edited by Kin3ticX, 16 February 2013 - 04:17 PM.

[Grumbling Coot]

Edward Steiner, on 16 February 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Sorry, but although those builds are easier to do well with than other builds, they can not dominate a match, unless they have a good team supporting them. A Commando or Raven can easily be one-shotted with a carefully aimed head shot (yes this is difficult, but not impossible). You people who want to have everything nerfed, because you have not yet learned a way to counter it are rediculous, learn to play better. Yes, you will get upset by that, every time I see someone suggest that you learn to play better on the forums, I see people get angry and dismiss that, but it is the truth. And no, I am not the best player in the game and I do stupid things and lose as much as anyone else.

I think people are just frustrated because it's next to impossible to kill a competent RVN-3L or COM-2D in a different light mech. You absolutely NEED to get help. Most other lights don't even have a fighting chance.

edit: lol ninja'd

Edited by Grumbling Coot, 16 February 2013 - 04:19 PM.

[Biglead]

Oh, I forgot the...




WAIT UNTIL KNOCKDOWNS BROTINYMAN! when knockdowns return it will be easier to kill 3Ls and 2Ds because they are accustomed to horrible piloting skills.


I wait with baited breathe...and Swiss cake rolls.