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[Carnivoris]

I don't think the ELO/match score system is being fair to light mech pilots like myself who maintain base caps in Conquest mode. There are matches that are won because of people like me where we never fire a single shot and our match scores reflect that. It's not because we're bad pilots, it's because there's no points awarded for base capping. I think this is going to result in skewed drops when ELO gets all sorted.

There needs to be points awarded for time spent capping a base. I don't feel like it's fair that I get no points for playing my role. Not everyone is supposed to be a brawler that does a lot of damage or get a lot of kills. Spider pilots especially are suffering because they can do so little damage, anyway.

PGI, can we get base caps calculated into ELO somehow? If not, then something's gonna have to give because your light pilots are going to have very low ELO numbers, even though they're good pilots and will be dropping with players with very low ELO scores for whatever reason (bad, new, farmers, etc). I can't say for sure how it's all going to play out, but I have a bad feeling about it.

[Vassago Rain]

Yes, let's reward caps, so everybody only ever drives a light into the enemy's base. It'll be great.
No more fighting, just farming. Zero effort. Hold W and hump the oilrig.

[Bilbo]

Elo is based off of W/L. It has nothing to do what actually took place in the game.

[Kyone Akashi]

I think that, actually, the greater risk here is that 7 people get high Elo scores because a single pilot bothered to win the match for them.

[Padic]

Carnivoris, on 20 February 2013 - 08:41 AM, said:

ELO/match score system

It's apparently a very common myth that these terms are interchangeable.

Your Elo ranking is determined based on your wins, your losses and who you're winning and losing against. It is (well, will be) used for matchmaking purposes.

Your match score is determined by things like damage done and kills. It is used for sorting names on the scoreboard.

[Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard]

As i've said since they removed rewards for caping & removed the R&R at the same time, People who cap are morons! It serves no part in 'beta testing' & it serves your team less than actually playing the game and killing people.

I just think people who go for cap are sad and boring.

nuff said

Just like ranking systems OF ANY KIND! They turn people in to idiots, just take how people think the K/D ratio means there good! Get real will you!

A game, with a lobby where people can CHOICE who to play with and chat with each other is the winner in days of ELO/MM systems that just suck donkey! Is it too much to ask for, A 15-20 year old idea that had nothing wrong with it in the first place!

Edited by Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard, 20 February 2013 - 08:55 AM.

[VonRunnegen]

Vassago Rain, on 20 February 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Yes, let's reward caps, so everybody only ever drives a light into the enemy's base. It'll be great.
No more fighting, just farming. Zero effort. Hold W and hump the oilrig.

Yeah, its nice and easy..... if the opponent isn't doing their job. Otherwise its not, it'll just get you killed and drop your ELO. And given this 'farming' will be matching you against tougher and tougher opponents it'll really not be that effective (unless they give a HUGE elo boost for a single cap-win in which case ELO for lights will be all over the place)

[Mercules]

Vassago Rain, on 20 February 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Yes, let's reward caps, so everybody only ever drives a light into the enemy's base. It'll be great.
No more fighting, just farming. Zero effort. Hold W and hump the oilrig.

How much effort does it take to actually look around and spot mechs? You get capped you deserved to lose for being unobservant.



The OP needs to realize his match score means nothing directly. He is getting a lot less C-Bills and XP for capping instead of fighting so it will take a bit longer to level up his mech but really if it wins the match it will advance his Elo.

Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard, on 20 February 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

I just think people who go for cap are sad and boring.

I think people who can't stop a cap are clueless as to how the game works.

[ICEFANG13]

Of course capping in conquest is more important and dynamic than assault, as the OP said he was doing. Maintaining the bases in conquest is important during the entire game, and taking them is not an instant somewhat abusive win, it also forces the enemy mechs to move instead of play defend this hill to our base online. At least in conquest, light mechs, and probably all mechs, need to get bonuses for captures/assist captures/time held bases.

Also, as I did not know, I guess ELO is decided by Mr Blue Sky! (I mean win/loss ratio), so bases don't have to play a role in ELO, but should give some point benefit.

[Carnivoris]

I was unaware that match score didn't go towards ELO, my bad.

[xDeityx]

Carnivoris, on 20 February 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

I was unaware that match score didn't go towards ELO, my bad.

It's generally a good idea to inform yourself about the topic of your own post before you post it. These forums already have a bad reputation from people immediately vomiting their stream of consciousness into a post.

Edit: Elo isn't an acronym, it's a man's last name.

Edited by xDeityx, 20 February 2013 - 09:50 AM.

[Mercules]

Carnivoris, on 20 February 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

I was unaware that match score didn't go towards ELO, my bad.

At least you are big enough to admit it when you are wrong. Better than a lot of folks.

Still a good idea to look around a bit before complaining about something or maybe ASKING instead of stating it. Something like, "does anyone think this might be?" or "I was thinking this... is that true?"