41 replies to this topic

[NocturnalBeast]

Make your voice heard! Speak with your wallet. Make sure you stick to whatever decision you make!


Clarification: I am not advocating legal action, just a monetary boycott. Also, I personally am not planning on quitting this game, I just will not spend any more money until the third person idea is discarded, or PGI clarifies that 3rd person will be implemented in a way that it will not affect gameplay (like having 3rd person restricted to the Testing Grounds only).

Edited by Edward Steiner, 20 March 2013 - 09:36 PM.

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

This has bias.

Why not post a non biased poll.

[Squigles]

Yes, No, etc. would have been better and more impartial poll options. I wouldn't spend another dime, but I don't view it as a "Breach of contract".

[NocturnalBeast]

Squigles, on 20 March 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Yes, No, etc. would have been better and more impartial poll options. I wouldn't spend another dime, but I don't view it as a "Breach of contract".

I appreciate your input, but don't cast a vote if there is no option that suits you.


Also, just noticed that I forgot the "d" in "implemented", I guess that diminishes the effect of this post.

Edited by Edward Steiner, 20 March 2013 - 09:17 PM.

[Ryvucz]

Multiple choice poll.

Oh lawd.

Lawd.

Lawd.

[Novakaine]

Call of duty here we come.

[jakucha]

Where's the option for "this poll is terrible"?

Novakaine, on 20 March 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Call of duty here we come.

I absolutely don't want third person, but Call of Duty doesn't have third person unless you're dead. Come up with a better example, like Arma.

Edited by jakucha, 20 March 2013 - 09:18 PM.

[Tarman]

Edward Steiner, on 20 March 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

I appreciate your input, but don't cast a vote if there is no option that suits you.

That's not how it works. Make a better poll or have people intentionally mock it and tank your results.

[Jonathan Paine]

Between coolant, incoming off map strikes and possibly 3rd person views I went from " how many more mech bays should I get" to " my money is probably best spent elsewhere"

[FupDup]

Novakaine, on 20 March 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Call of duty here we come.

CoD is FPV...



PS: And no, I'm not in favor of 3PV either because I remember the poptart apocalypse of MW4...

Edited by FupDup, 20 March 2013 - 09:20 PM.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Some ppl need to realize this game is still in beta AND its F2P.
That means we are no players but betatesters.
And if you do not want to spend money here then just grind multiple accounts.Your choice...but when they will call bankrupt then you can ***** only bcuz of yourself and not PGI/IGP...

[zverofaust]

Are you actually serious?

FACT: Third person view has been a staple of the Mechwarrior franchise since forever.

FACT: Third person view in no way "dumbs down" the game. Call of Duty doesn't have 3PV, but Arma 3, which blows MWO out of the water in terms of realistic simulation, does.

FACT: The "advantage" gained by TPV is marginal at best considering the gameplay design of MWO; there will be no popping out of cover for a quick headshot after scoping someone in 3PV around a corner.

FACT: TPV is of big interest to most gamers, especially of the casual variety and especially when concerning piloting vehicles. Just look at any video of World of Tanks, War Thunder, BF3 tank driving, et al. Despite not really giving them any major battlefield advantage, people prefer this viewmode because it lets them see themselves, their vehicle, and every action they take, like a child playing with a toy on the floor below him. There is nothing wrong with this.

FACT: TPV would help custom paint jobs actually matter, as you'll be able to see your own damned paintjob in real-time during a match rather than just a static image in a mechlab profile.

FACT: If you are irrational enough to threaten a boycott because of TPV, you are an unstable person.

Edited by zverofaust, 20 March 2013 - 09:21 PM.

[Signal27]

I could've sworn I read something somewhere about the devs pondering 3rd person only for a tutorial or something - as a means of getting new players used to their mech heading in one direction while their torso is pointed in another. Like being only to do 3rd person in the testing grounds - and not during an actual fight with other players.

Would everybody still flip their $#!+ if 3rd person were implemented that way?

Edited by Signal27, 20 March 2013 - 09:22 PM.

[NocturnalBeast]

Daisu Saikoro, on 20 March 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

This has bias.

Why not post a non biased poll.

I am too passionate about this issue to think rationally. You are right, I could have left the "loaded" verbiage out and made it just Yes or No, but I had to be melodramatic.

And no, I am not suggesting that anyone start a lawsuit against PGI, or IGP, I am just suggesting that we speak with our wallets and I am mainly curious to see how many people feel as I do regarding this issue.

[Carrioncrows]

First I would take the time to read up on exactly how 3rd person will effect this game, because.

1. People who choose to use 3rd person will be matched with people who also use third person or like the option to use 3rd person.

2. People who like first person will ONLY be paired with other people who like just 1st person.

In conclusion:

Who the hell cares? Two separate vision modes, two separate player pools, one has no impact on the other.

This is all.

[Zerstorer Stallin]

Of cousre I've already stop spending when they put in consumables so its not really fair I voted yes. but I think it balances out cause I'd just stop playing all together.

[Commander Kobold]

JudgeDeathCZ, on 20 March 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

Some ppl need to realize this game is still in beta AND its F2P.
That means we are no players but betatesters.
And if you do not want to spend money here then just grind multiple accounts.Your choice...but when they will call bankrupt then you can ***** only bcuz of yourself and not PGI/IGP...

if they go bankrupt someone better bigger can pick up the IP

Edited by Omni 13, 20 March 2013 - 09:27 PM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

I'm still in refusal due to ECM. Hard to deny what is already denied.

[NocturnalBeast]

zverofaust, on 20 March 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

Are you actually serious?

FACT: Third person view has been a staple of the Mechwarrior franchise since forever.

FACT: Third person view in no way "dumbs down" the game. Call of Duty doesn't have 3PV, but Arma 3, which blows MWO out of the water in terms of realistic simulation, does.

FACT: The "advantage" gained by TPV is marginal at best considering the gameplay design of MWO; there will be no popping out of cover for a quick headshot after scoping someone in 3PV around a corner.

FACT: TPV is of big interest to most gamers, especially of the casual variety and especially when concerning piloting vehicles. Just look at any video of World of Tanks, War Thunder, BF3 tank driving, et al. Despite not really giving them any major battlefield advantage, people prefer this viewmode because it lets them see themselves, their vehicle, and every action they take, like a child playing with a toy on the floor below him. There is nothing wrong with this.

FACT: TPV would help custom paint jobs actually matter, as you'll be able to see your own damned paintjob in real-time during a match rather than just a static image in a mechlab profile.

FACT: If you are irrational enough to threaten a boycott because of TPV, you are an unstable person.

FACT: I have played every Mechwarrior game for the PC except for Mechwarrior 4.

FACT: I boycott restaurants who no longer serve, or change my favorite meals to the point where I no longer enjoy them, so why would a game be any different?

FACT: I may or may not be "unstable", you are obviously a shrink, so you give me your professional diagnosis. I do know that I need more sleep, but, whatever.


DISCLAIMER: I did not say that I would quit playing, I just said that I would not pay any more money on MC, until I get a satisfactory (to myself) explanation of how 3rd person is going to be implemented.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Zerstorer Stallin, on 20 March 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Of cousre I've already stop spending when they put in consumables so its not really fair I voted yes. but I think it balances out cause I'd just stop playing all together.

I did not used any coolant flush since it is ingame(not even c-bill variant) and I do not own any module upgrade and yes I have GXP(now over 33k).I just do not have enough space for more modules...