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[jay35]

Pac Man, on 16 April 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

I lost speed on all my mechs, from 1 to 5kph. It might not be on purpose, so don't go burning things on stakes yet. They might not have realized the problem. With the changes to the ballistic rewinds, they might've been mucking with the speed algorithms, to keep a linear line between all the mechs, and inadvertently slowed all the mechs down by a fraction (Which might not have been noticed when steamlining.)

Anyway, just a possible scenario. Don't jump to the worst conclusions, and if everyone's speed is nerfed, then we all have to deal with the same problems, and not just some of us.

I like this option. I hope this is all it is and it will be fixed in the next patch.

[Bloody Moon]

My CTF-3D runs at 78.6 WITHOUT speed tweak, with it the speed is 78.8 now, it was 86.6. Oh well, back to farming XP for the Highlander.

[Deathlike]

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2249797

[Escef]

Deathlike, on 16 April 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2249797

Except you were demonstrated to be wrong. It was a nice attempt, but it does not jive with actual observed behavior of the system.

[darkfall13]

I'm showing in game 81.1kph in my 4SP when yesterday it was just 81kph flat, whoo I'm winning!

[Deathlike]

Escef, on 16 April 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

Except you were demonstrated to be wrong. It was a nice attempt, but it does not jive with actual observed behavior of the system.

I reworked the formula a little. If there is a rounding up to something "perfect", congrats to you!

[darkfall13]

So I just unlocked Speed Tweak on my 4SP, originally from 81kph should be 89.1kph, but I'm getting 88.5kph (plus the .1kph difference from non-speed tweak yesterday vs today has been noted)

[Escef]

Deathlike, on 16 April 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

I reworked the formula a little. If there is a rounding up to something "perfect", congrats to you!

Now explain to me why the hell it is that 50 tonners with 250 engines and no Speed Tweak suddenly got a 0.1 kph speed boost? Or for that matter, why does your formula work? Why should speed be reduced before boosting it 10%? This makes no damn sense. Your numbers might be right, but the question becomes, why are we seeing this?

[Rylyn]

My "beef" is not that they made changes to all mechs speed but that they did it without telling us. Its obviously on purpose and not a bug because you can see the speed changes in the mechlab. If it was a bug, the mechlab would show the speed previous to the patch.

[aniviron]

ArmageddonKnight, on 16 April 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Wow ..a couple kph ..such a massive nerf ..quick lets all get out pitch forks

Those running fast mechs above 100kph ..be happy ..being that fast is enough as is , running at 140kph is even more rediculous.
150 kph down to 140 ..big deal. Now if its was 50 down to 45 ..then it might be enough to moan about, as 50 is slow..but anything above 100 is more than fast enough.

Yes, with lights making up a massive 11% of mechs on the field, what they really need is more reasons not to play them. Especially now that you can PPC their legs off in one or two shots reliably.

[Xamiakas]

thanks for screwing it up and thanks for not telling any1 you did that.. now cut the khrap and fix it! pgi, lol, that was low even for you.

[WhiteTiger32109]

Yes I noticed this on my jenner f. I went from 152.7 to 151.6. why is this happening.

[L A V A]

Pac Man, on 16 April 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Don't jump to the worst conclusions, and if everyone's speed is nerfed, then we all have to deal with the same problems, and not just some of us.

Agreed.

We'll have to wait and see what's going on.

Also noticed that in the Training Grounds it appears that speed tweek is not applied.

Edited by xLAVAx, 17 April 2013 - 04:46 AM.

[Soy]

Dear PGI it takes 5 seconds to mention whether or not this was a bug or an intended patch change.

Please take those 5 seconds to inform your customers what the **** that is all about. We really appreciate the hard work and... stuff.

Thanks.

[Cycleboy]

Could they have actually applied the gravity modifiers??? I don't remember if the stated world gravity was already affecting speed. Some are running at 1.2-1.4g. That would slow you down. Now, if we play on a moon with 0.4g, I want to see those little mechs FLYING. But... I want a big open plain on that moon to try laser swiping them!

[Glasswlkr]

This is a good point. I do remember them mentioning the gravity effects coming into play soon. And this may explain the difference (at the very least they may have changed out the calculation code to account for gravity in prep for a future release and inadvertantly changed the results by a bit).

Also in regards to it showing in the mechlab, consider that the mechlab display may be referencing the same core speed calculation code that the gameplay itself does. In which case a bug at that level would affect both places in the same way. And if they weren't paying close attention they could have missed it.

(though honestly if mucking with speed calc code, one would think they would verify the speeds still came out as expected...)

Anyway, who knows for now. Lets not jump the gun and get our Lynch Mob on until PGI has clarified.

[Banditman]

This is a topic that really deserves a developer response.

[Frakk Zarah]

It's not gravity. You lose the same speed no matter what map you are on. At least that's what happens to me.
The speed reduction is around 0.3-0.5kph on the mechs I've tested.

[Soy]

Banditman, on 17 April 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:

This is a topic that really deserves a developer response.

[Paul Inouye]

We did not nerf anything. Something has gone sideways causing this change. We're investigating it and will fix ASAP. This is a bug, nothing intentional or tuning based.