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[Rather Dashing]

Personally I would love to see the urbie make the cut. For all the flak it catches I think, all things considered, as a light mech its a pretty solid one.

[OmegaMale92]

DireWolf307, on 08 June 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

The Zeus is a Stiener fast attack 'mech, basically their version of a Jenner

It is the lightest of the Assault class, after all!

i just read that the Zeus is a colossal size mech(http://en.wikipedia....wiki/BattleMech).
Where can one find the most accurate information.

[Arikiel]

OmegaMale92, on 08 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

i just read that the Zeus is a colossal size mech(http://en.wikipedia....wiki/BattleMech).
Where can one find the most accurate information.

Here.

[Murphy7]

DireWolf307, on 08 June 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

Why does everyone hate on the Zeus? Not everyone needs a slow, lumbering 100t Assault to get the job done. Light Assaults like the Zeus work just fine with the right pilot.

Not I, I fairly adore the Zeus. But I think you get the same thing at the bottom of the medium, heavy, and assault weight classes - a 40 tonner seems like a 35 with pretensions of grandeur, an 80 tonner offers the very slightest of improvements over the 75. The worst is the 55/60 split between mediums and heavies, where Jumpjets become much more weighty and makes a significant difference between the two weights.

[DireWolf307]

OmegaMale92, on 08 June 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

i just read that the Zeus is a colossal size mech(http://en.wikipedia....wiki/BattleMech).
Where can one find the most accurate information.

All trolling nominal.

[Major Tom]

There is a lot of Zeus hate from the non-Steiner contingent, but I guess that is to be expected.

[Siilk]

Spheroid, on 08 June 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

Blackjack ... Jagermech

This, please.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Spheroid, on 08 June 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

They need more Davion mechs regardless.

No jumping assault, no AC-2 mechs, no SRM2 mechs. More Davion mechs could fill all these weapon holes.

The Panther or Vindicator are needed for lighter PPC platforms.

You get the Jagermch. ENJOY!!!

Rather Dashing, on 08 June 2012 - 10:59 AM, said:

Personally I would love to see the urbie make the cut. For all the flak it catches I think, all things considered, as a light mech its a pretty solid one.

An urbie with an AC 20 is nothing to sneeze at...especially with such a small profile. Sucky ammo count though. It will need some tweaking.

Can you imagine a new Urbie pop tarting tactic?

Urbie runs in behind an Atlas or other large mech, pop tarts out from the sides of its shield mech to deliver it's Urbie AC Justice, pops back behind. I think it would be fun!

Edited by PANZERBUNNY, 08 June 2012 - 12:34 PM.

[Dreden Aelnir]

Roland, on 08 June 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

What are you talking about? They have all of their mechs.

LOL, thanks Roland...

[Birddog FAC]

what you all except for maybe one are missing is that in no way are battle mechs house specific at the pointof 3049 with all the wars and planets changeing hands everyone has some of everything .. i will say that the mechs created by the factions are more prevelent there but i also know that house Davion builds its own commandos along with the zuse and highlander. so dont froget that alot of the factions build most of the mechs if in a different configuration.

[hermione]

well, if you ask any Stiener mech jockey, we only need 1 mech to keep us happy, and thats the Atlas!!!

[Roland]

Dreden Aelnir, on 08 June 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

LOL, thanks Roland...

Credit should go to whoever posted it first in the Mechwarrior Meme thread from the jettisoned communication forum.

[Xantars]

by 3049 there is no mech that one house or another dosnt have several of them in the feild so its hard to realy say its a faction only mech. unless is a brand new mech desgin fresh off the assembly line

[hashtagampersand]

I think Vindicator, Wolfhound and Enforcer are very likely. But I want my Orion very much.

I think there are more iconic designs, like the Jagermech. Right now we need to be looking more for having a jump jet chassis in each weight class though.

[Solis Obscuri]

Commando: Lyran
Jenner: DC/FRR
Raven: Cappellan
Cicada: FWL/I.S General
Hunchback: I.S. General
Centurion: FedSuns/I.S. General
Dragon: DC/FRR
Catapult: Cappellan/DC/I.S. General
Cataphract: Cappellan/FedSuns
Awesome: FWL/I.S. General
Stalker: I.S. General
Atlas: I.S. General

Tally
Cappellan: 3
DC: 3
FedSuns: 2
FWL: 2
FRR: 2
I.S. General 7
Lyran: 1


In general, it's not a bad spread. Steiner is represented a somewhat lightly, and the FRR, FWL, and Federated Suns could use a little more coverage.

As a few suggestions:

Light
Spider: FWL/DC/I.S. General
Firestarter: Lyran/DC/FWL/I.S. General

Both offer another jump-capable recon 'mech. The Firestarter can carry a good payload, but I lean more toward the Spider as a pure-speed-and-agility recon 'mech and flanker.

Medium
Trebuchet: FWL/I.S. General
Sentinel: Lyran/DC/FRR

All fill the need for another fast medium with a good long-range weapon. Of the two, I prefer the Trebuchet for having more variants (including one with JJ), but the Sentinel has enough different weapons that it should be able to provide hardpoints for a range of customizations. The Starslayer might also be a good choice, though its canonical availability is questionable.

Heavy
Orion: FWL/I.S General
Flashman: Lyran/DC/FRR

Either provides an excellent choice for a well armored heavy workhorse. Of the two, the Orion would be more commonly available canonically, and has a nice weapons spread (as well as a few variants), but the Flashman is a very tough energy-only 'mech, and an old favorite from MW2 Mercs. I also think the Guillotine could be a good choice as a jump-capable FWL/I.S. General brawler.

Assault
Highlander: Lyran/I.S. General
Victor: FedSuns/I.S. General

In the assault class, either the Highlander or the Victor would provide a very powerful jump-capable fire-support 'mech. The Highlander has the advantage or heavier armor for better staying power, as well as stronger long-range armament, the Victor has better speed and agility, and more variants.

[Alizabeth Aijou]

Roland, on 08 June 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

What are you talking about? They have all of their mechs.

There's the steiner way (shown above), and then there's the Genyosha way.
With a Kyushu.
Full regimental drop from low orbit (so they don't burn up in the atmosphere as those steiners do).
Lyran invention, Combine perfection.

[Chuggernaut]

Major Tom, on 08 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

There is a lot of Zeus hate from the non-Steiner contingent, but I guess that is to be expected.

To be fair, the -6S isn't that great a machine. The -6T with the PPC is a pretty big improvement but it wasn't available during most of the Succession Wars, being introduced around the same time as the (SUPER AMAZING) Banshee-S.

And hey, if they want to eventually miss out on the -9S Zeus, it's their loss. That thing is an amazing fire support machine, and a just all-around solid mech.

Edited by Chuggernaut, 09 June 2012 - 02:37 AM.

[Hanged Man]

There has been a lot, a lot, a lot of speculation and blatant assumptions about how 'Mechs which canonically are favored by one faction or another will become available. I think a lot of House loyalists are reading far too much out of the very limited information we've received about the loyalty system and how it will affect shopping. I'm pretty sure that many if not all of the initial chassis will be available to all factions, given the difficulty of creating a balanced lineup for each House otherwise. For folks whose preferences require them to drive faction-approved 'Mechs in House colors and all that, I don't have a good answer (I'm pretty sure 'try to care less' is not what they want to hear). Since I hope for as much diversity on the battlefield as possible. I will be crossing fingers along with the rest of you that we see lots of new choices coming up in the future, enough to satisfy your RP needs.

[Jack Gallows]

Xantars, on 08 June 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

by 3049 there is no mech that one house or another dosnt have several of them in the feild so its hard to realy say its a faction only mech. unless is a brand new mech desgin fresh off the assembly line

Lore wise some are incredibly more common due to those houses owning the production facilities that the 'mechs are created at. Cataphract and Raven would be Cap only had Davion not taken some of the production facilities. That's kind of what they're getting at.

All in all, it doesn't really matter for MW:O where a 'mech is made long as it makes it into the game, who cares if they're all from one house?

[wanderer]

zorak ramone, on 08 June 2012 - 10:49 AM, said:

The Banshee 5S is the Steiner fast scout, with a super light weight of 95 tons and a blistering 64kph top speed.

What I'm trying to say is why haven't the devs added the BNC-5S yet.

Seriously.

It has a production date of 3053, meaning it doesn't exist yet in the MWO timeline.

Now, you want a distinctive Steiner -medium-, it'd be the Griffin, two of which stand at the Archon's throne as her personal bodyguard. Yes, despite all the Lyran jokes of which Hogarth will be the top of the list...