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[Sephlock]

I'm really not looking forward to playing "Find the Raven" on this map for 10+ minutes straight...

[xhrit]

To everyone who says your mech should burst in flames if you walk on flowing lava : watch this video of a man wearing rubber boots walk across flowing lava, and be amazed at the fact that he is totally unharmed.

I don't need to point out that melting point of armor is much higher then flesh. Well maybe I do, some of the people in this thread are clearly ignorant of basic scientific facts.



To everyone who says the map sucks : learn to tactics.

Main group moves to hold center, while scouts go left and right. Call out contacts, easy win.

I love this map.

Edited by xhrit, 01 August 2013 - 12:02 PM.

[redbearin]

iv played this map three times now where i never saw a enemy mech we just ended up caping

[Wolf of the Sea]

I keep getting random hill climb mechanics in my spider... EVERYWHERE. I'm going 151, then 60, then 151, then 78, then 151, then 70. In the span of a single second.

[Kaarde]

xhrit, on 01 August 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

To everyone who says the map sucks : learn to tactics.

Main group moves to hold center, while scouts go left and right. Call out contacts, easy win.

I love this map.

Learn to tactics, I've been hearing this since Closed Beta.

With PUG groups you cannot set your drop before hand. You work with what you get. I've had this map 6 times tonight, I've only had lights twice. And both of them simply ran off to cap without trying to work with the team. \

This is a Cap Map pure and simple. If you leave elements behind to protect the base then you are lowering your teams odds of winning the fight when they meet the inevitable blob.

If you don't leave elements behind then you get capped without being able to get back in time even in speedier mediums.

If you stay behind and protect the base then it becomes a waiting fest and eventually people trickle off and get killed.



The map isn't set up for pugs terribly well, to best utilize it a team needs several lights and you cannot garuntee that in a Pug.

[Dreamslave]

Yoseful Mallad, on 30 July 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

lmao! Your fighting in a F...ing volcano for god sake. It's supposed to be HOT and you are supposed to have major heat issues lol.

Anyone who thinks this is woefully incorrect. Tera Therma is a MOON. The surface temperature should be in the negative hundreds of degrees fahrenheit. Case in point, the most volcanic of any moon in our solar system, Io. Google it. You'll see exactly why you and anyone else who thinks what you just wrote are incorrect.

Edited by Dreamslave, 05 August 2013 - 10:00 PM.

[Skadi]

Gonna drop it.

I love the map.

Horribly conveyed lava mechanics beside(make it ******* mutilate peoples legs), its a great map, it allows for multiple strat's unlike ALL current maps, where you can see the enemy force at all given points at all given times and only have two ways to go *cough river city*. Combine this with the fact it looks great and you get a good map (for once).

Now for that dreaded box spawn...

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

Anyone who thinks this is woefully incorrect. Tera Therma is a MOON. The surface temperature should be in the negative hundreds of degrees fahrenheit. Case in point, the most volcanic of any moon in our solar system, Io. Google it. You'll see exactly why you and anyone else who thinks what you just wrote are incorrect.

Fun fact, moons orbiting planets extremely close to suns are, infact, ******* hot! imagine that! Now I don't have terra therma's mother planets location or any other info besides its hot as hell, which lead me to believe the planet it orbits is essentialy Venus/Mercury.

Another way to imagine it is mercury orbiting a planet close to the sun, which isn't completely impossible. While mercury's heat laughs at terra therma it gives a good mental image

(plus its safe to assume were fighting while the planet terra therma is orbiting is between it and the star, which would allow it to start cooling off before getting nuked again, more than likely the fight is right after the cooling process begins, as that would be when safe operations are well, safe.)

Edited by Skadi, 05 August 2013 - 10:12 PM.

[Dreamslave]

Skadi, on 05 August 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

Gonna drop it.

I love the map.

Horribly conveyed lava mechanics beside(make it ******* mutilate peoples legs), its a great map, it allows for multiple strat's unlike ALL current maps, where you can see the enemy force at all given points at all given times and only have two ways to go *cough river city*. Combine this with the fact it looks great and you get a good map (for once).

Now for that dreaded box spawn...

Fun fact, moons orbiting planets extremely close to suns are, infact, ******* hot! imagine that! Now I don't have terra therma's mother planets location or any other info besides its hot as hell, which lead me to believe the planet it orbits is essentialy Venus/Mercury.

Fun fact. Neither Mercury NOR Venus have moons. The main theory as to WHY exactly, being that if they ever had any moons, they were stolen away by our suns much more intense gravity well. Again, you are woefully incorrect.

Edited by Dreamslave, 05 August 2013 - 10:12 PM.

[Skadi]

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

Fun fact. Neither Mercury NOR Venus have moons. The main theory as to WHY exactly, being that, if they ever had any moons, they were stolen away by our suns much more intense gravity well. Again, you are woefully incorrect.

Dear god man, I didn't say they had moons, quote me where they said that, im telling you WHY the moon would be intensly hot, and its also depending of the type of star its planet is orbiting, not EVERYTHING works like it does in our solar system.

Im giving you the ONLY logical reason why the moon is what it is with such a thin atmosphere.

Edited by Skadi, 05 August 2013 - 10:15 PM.

[Dreamslave]

Skadi, on 05 August 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

Dear god man, I didn't say they had moons, quote me where they said that, im telling you WHY the moon would be intensly hot, and its also depending of the type of star its planet is orbiting, not EVERYTHING works like it does in our solar system.

Im giving you the ONLY logical reason why the moon is what it is with such a thin atmosphere.

Dear god man, I am giving you examples of why you are wrong and why the fracking moon shouldn't be so damn hot.

Here, let me explain something to you. In layman's terms (which are suitable for your apparent level of comprehension), the bigger an entity in space is, the stronger it's gravity is. So if you want to talk about the type of star that Terra Therma's mother planet might be orbiting, if it's a star bigger than our Sun, then the mother planet wouldn't have any moons like Terra Therma in the first place. If it's a smaller star than our Sun, then Terra Therma's surface temperature would be EXTREMELY fracking cold.

And don't even get me started on Terra Therma's apparent atmosphere and normal gravity. Why our mechs are effected by gravity the same way across all the maps is beyond me.

Edited by Dreamslave, 05 August 2013 - 10:19 PM.

[Jackalhit]

Ok here goes, my post is gonna be a bit disorganized and very redundant, but meh, whatever. On with it:

Dreamslave said:

Incorrect stuff here, from multiple posts.

The habitable zone of any particular extra-solar system is determine by the ability for liquid water to exist. For a planet-mass moon (Terra Therma has gravity of .9, so its mass is near to that of Earth) to have a light atmosphere and such high surface temps, 97C, it means that it exists WELL within the habitable zone of this system, which is not unheard of. This moon is actually much more massive than Mercury and there is NO reason to believe that this system's sun would gobble up this moon: bodies in space orbit CENTERS OF MASS. So this moon and it's host planet orbit eachother about a center of mass, and this SYSTEM in turn orbits the sun, fairly close in, by habitable zone standards.

You state:

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

the bigger an entity in space is, the stronger it's gravity is

This is totally false, gravity is determined by mass not size.

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

So if you want to talk about the type of star that Terra Therma's mother planet might be orbiting, if it's a star bigger than our Sun, then the mother planet wouldn't have any moons like Terra Therma in the first place.

This is complete nonsense. Refer to what I said about systems orbiting centers of mass.

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

If it's a smaller star than our Sun, then Terra Therma's surface temperature would be EXTREMELY fracking cold.

Also complete nonsense. A star can be smaller than the sun but be more massive and output greater energy. This would not be conducive to life, but planetary bodies can still exist in these types of systems. For a more easy to understand solar model, look up the Gliese581 system, it's hosted by a red dwarf star (low energy) and has planets existing WITHIN its habitable zone. Refer to what I wrote about habitable zones.

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

And don't even get me started on Terra Therma's apparent atmosphere and normal gravity.

Atmospheres can be stripped/non-existant/light for any number of reasons.
A) Given that it's orbiting a Jovian-mass planet, it may never have had much atmosphere, as plausibly, the planet may have accreted all of that material.
B.) Atmospheres can be stripped by coronal mass ejections (think giant solar flares).
C) Atmospheres can be stripped by catastrophic colisions with other bodies.
D) Maybe the star went red-giant, baked off the atmosphere while pushing the planetary system out to a new orbit (as stars expand, the outward pressure or "winds" are strong enough to push planets out of their original orbits; think about the Sun's corona being ejected, stripping the atmosphere of say, Mercury, and pushing it out to a farther orbit than it currently resides in, so it's not quite in the habitable zone) so it exists where 97C (not really all that hot by astronomical standards) is the surface temp.



There, if you're still confused, my bad I had to condense a LOT of information into a quick summary...

Dreamslave, on 05 August 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

Here, let me explain something to you. In layman's terms (which are suitable for your apparent level of comprehension)

I mean, if you're going to insult someone's comprehension level, you should at least have a tiny shred of a clue of what you're talking about. But you don't.

Edit: This only talks about the plausibility of this moon existing, map balance/issues aside.

Edited by Jackalhit, 07 August 2013 - 06:32 AM.

[Masterrix]

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12 vs 12 is online and Terra still sucks

because its too large, even for 12v12,
because I need 3 minutes to meet the enemy
because there is only 1 hotspot location while 90% of the map are uninteresting
because backdooring is much too easy
because no one wants to walk back 3 minutes to defend the base

Terra is an "eye-blender"
looking great but in terms of gameplay, its one of the worsest maps of all.

Terra is the big bad brother of Caustic. both maps are focused on a vulcano in the center of the map.
but while Caustic is small, compact and intensive, Terra is just a slow oversized backdooring-map

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Edited by Masterrix, 13 August 2013 - 03:43 PM.

[Zakie Chan]

Map is a little heavy on choke points. Makes for some real clusterF***s when 12 people jockey for a firing lane. Visually its quite good and I enjoy the heat level and wish lava had more severe consequence.

Edited by Zakie Chan, 13 August 2013 - 04:46 PM.