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3Pv Compromise - 2 Game Mode


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Poll: 3PV Compromise - 2 game mode (44 member(s) have cast votes)

what you like?

  1. don't need 3 persone view in game (22 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. make 3PV in Arcade, and only 1PV in Hardcore mode - split MWO to 2 game mode (16 votes [36.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  3. make 3PV for all players (6 votes [13.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

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#1 zloy bullet

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 01:52 AM

Hi all!

What we have now?
- We have a lot of players who really do not like the inclusion of 3PV (as me)
- We have developers who plan to include 3PV in the game, ignoring the protests of many players

I have a compromise idea for all of us - divide the apple into two game modes:
- Arcade mode (all players can switch between 1PV and 3PV)
- Hardcore Mode (all players can use only 1PV, without 3PV)

Dear game Owners and Developers,
WMO now - just one actual game in Battletech Universe at our real universe, all other games dead now.. you have many fans of Battletech, who play in your game, but no need to take away from us, game, proximity to the original Battletech, give chance to play hardcore game for real mechwarriors - just put 3PV in Arcade mode - we all be happy! $)
If you want make game more friendly to other people - don't need kill your child!

p.s. sorry for my english

Edited by zloy bullet, 09 August 2013 - 01:53 AM.


#2 Farix

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 03:23 AM

Have you even been paying attention? PGI has already announced that there will be a separate queues for 3PV/1PV and 1PV only. Players can go back and forth between the queues as they wish. However, there is still a small and very vocal segment that doesn't want other players to even have the option of playing in 3PV even if they themselves never have to play against those players.

#3 zloy bullet

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:11 AM

View PostFarix, on 09 August 2013 - 03:23 AM, said:

PGI has already announced that there will be a separate queues for 3PV/1PV and 1PV only. Players can go back and forth between the queues as they wish.

proof link plz? - if that true - i fully satisfied :)

#4 Farix

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:03 AM

http://mwomercs.com/...evs-39-answers/

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Viper69 : If we are going to be able to choose to play against people using 3PV or not to, how are you going to address the then fractured and smaller groups that then have to wait in queue for a match that meets their perimeters?
A: There will be two modes Normal and Hardcore (FPV) only. We anticipate most players will play the first mode leaving the hardcore mode for the those wanting a challenge. 3PV will be going onto test servers in the next 60 days and we’ll see how it goes from there.

Ghost Badger: How does PGI plan to reconcile Community Warfare matches with 3PV and 1PV? How will they reconcile matches between teams with different preferences? Or do they plan to split the CW mechanic by viewpoint?
A: The plan is to have scheduled matches will be FPV only, since these will be performed between Merc. Units. Regular matches will follow the above rules (Normal/Hardcore).


#5 Syllogy

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 05:34 AM

Must be magic.

#6 Dart Nimrod

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:10 AM

If 3PV will be added to the game, then it must be added with the mist of war to bring down lovers of easy way.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:19 AM

View PostSyllogy, on 09 August 2013 - 05:34 AM, said:

Must be magic.

You'r being rather snarky today Syllogy. :)

#8 Kell Morgan

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 07:25 AM

maybe before complaining play the test servers? If you had you would have already known that there where 2 different modes and you would also know that 3PV is crap and gives a significant disadvantage while your in it!

In 3pv you have NO mini map, your aiming is completely off, arm lock doesn't work, AND YOU HAVE A GIANT FLASHING DRONE BEHIND YOU! You can see it across any map and makes you easy as hell to hit. Also if you don't change your POV in user settings you cant see below your waist!

If anyone wants to play 3PV against me in 1PV I would annihilate them! Don't worry it wont break the game... even if there weren't already separate ques....

#9 Monky

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 11:00 AM

Another few possibilities;

Reworked 3PV;
http://mwomercs.com/...y-to-impliment/

In HUD 3d rendering of your mech;
shows your mechs leg and torso orientation, has potential to be very low budget performance and development wise, can be expanded to show target orientation as well. Would effectively provide the same thing as 3rd person and could show off paint schemes as well.

#10 Hotthedd

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 06:02 AM

View PostMonky, on 09 August 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Another few possibilities;

Reworked 3PV;
http://mwomercs.com/...y-to-impliment/

In HUD 3d rendering of your mech;
shows your mechs leg and torso orientation, has potential to be very low budget performance and development wise, can be expanded to show target orientation as well. Would effectively provide the same thing as 3rd person and could show off paint schemes as well.

That would solve all of the issues given as reasons by the pro-3PV crowd to include 3PV.

The only problem is: The reasons given were BS. They wanted easy mode/sight advantages and they got it.

#11 Lyoto Machida

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 11:55 AM

View PostKell Morgan, on 09 August 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

maybe before complaining play the test servers? If you had you would have already known that there where 2 different modes and you would also know that 3PV is crap and gives a significant disadvantage while your in it!

In 3pv you have NO mini map, your aiming is completely off, arm lock doesn't work, AND YOU HAVE A GIANT FLASHING DRONE BEHIND YOU! You can see it across any map and makes you easy as hell to hit. Also if you don't change your POV in user settings you cant see below your waist!

If anyone wants to play 3PV against me in 1PV I would annihilate them! Don't worry it wont break the game... even if there weren't already separate ques....


So what about the ability to see around/over terrain formations? People have posted screenshots of this so its definitely possible.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 04:01 AM

View PostLyoto Machida, on 13 August 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

So what about the ability to see around/over terrain formations? People have posted screenshots of this so its definitely possible.


It's not as big of an advantage as some have made it out to be. But 3PV has been overnerfed to the point that players aren't going to use it as it was intended. Besides, there are much better ways to deal with the "peek-a-boo" abuse of players quickly switching in and out of 3PV.





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