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Crybabies Cried Again, And Gauss Got Nerfed


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#1 D A T A

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 05:34 AM

weapons that are difficult to be used should be stronger.
stop this noob-crybaby friendly nerf.
gauss cooldown shold be restored at 4 secs or, if you want to keep it at 5.5 (sniper role), than damage 18 ad speed 2500.
Edit: this for both clan and IS.
but if you want to argue on how Inner Sphere is better than clan, here is the answer

http://i.imgur.com/5Kg1fzb.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9VktZWH.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/cq2mkUc.jpg?1

inner shpere keeps losing in cw because the most part of is players are a bunch of noobs and almost NO ONE USES META IN CW.

IF YOU SPAM INNER SPHERE META IN CW, THESE ARE TE RESULTS YOU GET: 4000-5500 DAMAGE AND GGCLOSE, YOU CAN CARRY 12 MEN ALONE

Edited by IL MECHWARRIOR, 09 December 2015 - 08:35 AM.


#2 B o S S

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 05:43 AM

View PostIL MECHWARRIOR, on 09 December 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

weapons that are difficult to be used should be stronger.
stop this noob-crybaby friendly nerf.
gauss cooldown shold be restored at 4 secs or, if you want to keep it at 5.5 (sniper role), than damage 18 ad speed 2500

I agree. Clan AC and UAC are useless, Lasers clan have to much nerf, the only way is Gauss but nerfed now.
I'm playing only IS because is more powerful than clan. The game is boring now.

Edited by IL BoSS, 09 December 2015 - 05:43 AM.


#3 X T R E M E

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 05:55 AM

I agree.
It is imposible play clan in this way!

#4 Wildstreak

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 05:59 AM

This is funny considering Clan won Tukayyid.
Clan UAC is still good, Clan AC stinks because its stats are worse than UAC or LBX and there are no modules for AC. LBX is considered bad because some players do not like the design of the shotgun.

#5 Idealsuspect

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 06:13 AM

View PostWildstreak, on 09 December 2015 - 05:59 AM, said:

This is funny considering Clan won Tukayyid.
Clan UAC is still good, Clan AC stinks because its stats are worse than UAC or LBX and there are no modules for AC. LBX is considered bad because some players do not like the design of the shotgun.


Clans won only becose news players have more IS mechs than clans mechs ( clan mechs are more expensive when you press buy button but same price when IS mechs have theirs fully optimal builds ) and becose IS loyalists bigs units are weakers than mercs units which take clan contract for have less waiting time during the event...

But damn IS are far away more efficient than clan mechs specially in CW gamemode ( they were already before the clan nerfs ... )

Edit : Game is boring since new tier system and more with the voting system and more useless since this stupid huge CW cease fire...

Edited by Idealsuspect, 09 December 2015 - 06:15 AM.


#6 X T R E M E

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 06:21 AM

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Edited by XtremeAlex, 09 December 2015 - 06:27 AM.


#7 X T R E M E

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 06:29 AM

View PostWildstreak, on 09 December 2015 - 05:59 AM, said:

This is funny considering Clan won Tukayyid.
Clan UAC is still good, Clan AC stinks because its stats are worse than UAC or LBX and there are no modules for AC. LBX is considered bad because some players do not like the design of the shotgun.


Wildstreak , can you make a screenshot of your tier ?

#8 Ironwithin

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 06:52 AM

View PostXtremeAlex, on 09 December 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:


Wildstreak , can you make a screenshot of your tier ?


You have just made any and all points you were trying to make moot and shown that you're just a petty child crying for his favorite e-peen toys back. Well done.

Edited by Ironwithin, 09 December 2015 - 07:21 AM.


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Posted 09 December 2015 - 06:52 AM

clan OP pgi pls nerf

#10 Azzgaroth

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 07:26 AM

View PostIronwithin, on 09 December 2015 - 06:52 AM, said:


You have just made any and all points you were trying to make mood and shown that you're just a petty child crying for his favorite e-peen toys back. Well done.


Fact: Alex score pretty much show, favorite OP Clan mech toy or not, know what hes doing in CW. Clan with new nerf pass are way behind IS mech. Clan won Tukkayid for on reason only: Freaking better pilot.

Plz PGI nerf skill!!!

#11 Scanz

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 09:52 AM

skill tree op. remove it !

#12 Brut4ce

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 11:49 AM

CLAMS OP!!!! NEED MORE NERF!!! :D

#13 Vermaxx

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Posted 09 December 2015 - 06:40 PM

Gauss balance:

Expensive item and ammo cost (sort of negligible)
Comparatively large item crit size, big weight cost
Lowest item health in the game (half of a heat sink, half of almost everything)
Item explodes when crit
Gun has a charging mechanic, requiring you to predict your shots
Longest recharge in the game, and it just got longer
The mechs with gauss quirks got decreases to their bonus

It needs the expense, it needs the crit size and weight, it needs to explode when crit. The charging mechanic and the item health are just slaps in the face. Oh yes, someone will show up and call me a terrible player for not being a wiz with the prediction mechanic, or for needing to spam gauss shots.

I played gauss when it was broken, and I defended it because there were repair costs. I played gauss when repair costs ended, and it was still broken. I defended it but agreed something could be changed as it was the only 'sniper' weapon.

When the charge mechanic came out, gauss stopped being a sniper weapon and it became a gimmick weapon. Now you're fighting lag, your mouse quality, AND the gun itself to hit someone with a "sniper" weapon. And on top of all of that, you can't fire it more than once every six seconds.

"OH BUT IT'S THE LONGEST RANGE FOR ZERO HEAT!" Yes, that's the fscking point. It is also expensive as hell, prone to crit, and blows up when crit. Given it is often installed in a mech with an XL engine, these are serious concerns. It doesn't need all these nerfs, they've gone past balance and into vindictive.

As a comparison, go look at the AC20. It has 18 item health, does more damage to one point, doesn't explode when crit, and only has a 4sec cooldown. No, you can't snipe with an AC20; but most of this game takes place within AC20 ranges.

Having a dedicated "sniper" weapon which isn't even optimal for that role, in a game that discourages long range gameplay, is not balance. "Then don't use it." Honestly, I probably won't other than my Grid Iron. Oh, thanks for that too PGI, thanks for taking away the one thing making Grid Iron a really fun mech even though I paid for it.

I had gauss back when they were good, and when they were broken. I've had my fun with them. It's still sad to see them tanked-worthless, but you're right I don't have to use them. In a game of value versus weight, I daresay most new players won't bother using them either.

They're a specialist weapon for spergs, I guess; because they're not specialist weapons for marksmen. The only other game I know where the sniper rifle has to be charged is Star Wars Battlefront: but it's a power up gimmick item, not a primary weapon.

#14 FallingAce

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 04:20 PM

Show us your screen shots against 228, kcom, or Ms and not a bunch of pugs before complaining about how OP the IS mechs are.

Edited by FallingAce, 10 December 2015 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 10 December 2015 - 05:12 PM

I never said anything about the gauss.

just game mode nonvote "play only skirm even when its not button"

#16 Wild_Alaskan

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 05:39 PM

View PostWildstreak, on 09 December 2015 - 05:59 AM, said:

This is funny considering Clan won Tukayyid.
Clan UAC is still good, Clan AC stinks because its stats are worse than UAC or LBX and there are no modules for AC. LBX is considered bad because some players do not like the design of the shotgun.


The reason clans won Tukayyid is because MS, 228, and KCom were playing clans that weekend.

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 06:33 PM

View PostXtremeAlex, on 09 December 2015 - 06:29 AM, said:


Wildstreak , can you make a screenshot of your tier ?

Sorry, you and others post CW shots where Tier doesn't matter, a Tier 1 can be matched against a Tier 5, and suddenly Tier matters? Invalidated question answered and not with my Tier since it doesn't matter based on what is posted.

View Postwfischer, on 10 December 2015 - 05:39 PM, said:


The reason clans won Tukayyid is because MS, 228, and KCom were playing clans that weekend.

Partially, no disrespect to their skill.

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 08:26 PM

View PostWildstreak, on 09 December 2015 - 05:59 AM, said:

Clan AC stinks because its stats are worse than UAC or LBX and there are no modules for AC.

That's because the Clan AC is a placeholder for ammunition swapping on Clan LB-X autocannons - hence their identical tonnage and slots. PGI wanted (and wants) to put in the canon ability of Clan LBs to swap between cannister and slug ammunition, but they hit a snag in testing and put in the "AC" as a stopgap solution. Unfortunately they hit some kind of snag in programming the system, and it's currently on hold with no ETA.

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 08:55 PM

Can someone post which IS mechs are the best mech at their weight? Oh none...How about if IS mechs are counted as 5 tons lighter than clan mechs...which would be the best at their tonnage?</p>

Edited by MechregSurn, 10 December 2015 - 09:03 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2015 - 05:09 AM

View PostIL MECHWARRIOR, on 09 December 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

weapons that are difficult to be used should be stronger.

agreed. that's why gauss should not be stronger.

Edited by gloowa, 11 December 2015 - 05:10 AM.






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