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#1 Navid A1

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:32 PM

I get to the problems straight away.... as a picture is worth a thousand words.

PROBLEM:
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Solution:
Give us notifications... Let us open chat while searching:
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Also this:
Having an always ON chat overlay is a really helpful thing to have
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And Finally...:
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Edited by Navid A1, 14 March 2016 - 06:49 PM.


#2 cazidin

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:37 PM

Seeing that flashing icon while in queue is like receiving a call while at the movie theater, watching a movie on the big screen. Is it really THAT important to answer then and there?

#3 Navid A1

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:40 PM

View Postcazidin, on 13 March 2016 - 07:37 PM, said:

Seeing that flashing icon while in queue is like receiving a call while at the movie theater, watching a movie on the big screen. Is it really THAT important to answer then and there?


There is a slight difference... that flashing icon can mean a group game, a CW game or a private lobby that may become full when you come back.

#4 Aleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:44 PM

View Postcazidin, on 13 March 2016 - 07:37 PM, said:

Seeing that flashing icon while in queue is like receiving a call while at the movie theater, watching a movie on the big screen. Is it really THAT important to answer then and there?


Yes! It is really THAT important!!! Because curiosity!!! Its literally a big red flashing button that says "Do Not Press!!!" And after a minute of que searching... The message box... It calls to me! It beckons me so!



#5 STEF_

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 07:54 PM

Dreaming this from years....





#6 Navid A1

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 08:12 PM

View PostAleksandr Sergeyevich Kerensky, on 13 March 2016 - 07:44 PM, said:

Yes! It is really THAT important!!! Because curiosity!!! Its literally a big red flashing button that says "Do Not Press!!!" And after a minute of que searching... The message box... It calls to me! It beckons me so!


Its torture...
Believe me.

#7 TheArisen

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 08:19 PM

Yes! Yes! Please Pgi!

#8 Ace Selin

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 09:09 PM

ADD TIME STAMP TO CHAT SO I KNOW WAS I CONTACTED 1 MIN AGO OR 30MIN AGO

Edited by Ace Selin, 13 March 2016 - 09:09 PM.


#9 Accused

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 09:28 PM

I don't know what the problem is, the entire UI has been crap since day 1.

for instance...

View Postcazidin, on 13 March 2016 - 07:37 PM, said:

Seeing that flashing icon while in queue is like receiving a call while at the movie theater, watching a movie on the big screen. Is it really THAT important to answer then and there?


There are only two solutions to this. You can answer the call in the middle of the movie, stand up and wave your phone around trying to get better reception while talking really loudly so you can be heard over the film's noise, or

you can turn it off like you're supposed to.

And there's the problem. Can we turn it off? No? It's supposed to be flashing so we know there's notifications? Yes? Then tell us the notification type or don't bother.

Edited by Accused, 13 March 2016 - 09:33 PM.


#10 kesuga7

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 09:50 PM

if its not built like steam chat
i dont notice it

#11 Jungle Rhino

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 10:09 PM

I have no idea why they haven't just shamelessly copied the chat functionality from - I don't know - ANY other game in the world that has a chat function...

In other word, what the OP said x100

#12 martian

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 10:16 PM

View PostNavid A1, on 13 March 2016 - 07:32 PM, said:

Solution1:
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Color Code things... UI 101


Sorry, but it wouldn't work and I can even tell you why: Because instead of blinking button (when I don't know what that blinking means) I would be left with blinking color button (when I don't know what each of a half dozen of colors can mean).

Either go with button that will be clearly labeled as "Incoming Private Message", "Group Invite", etc., or don't even bother with redoing that original button.

#13 Beaching Betty

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 10:35 PM

Solution 1: What if we received all of those? Will we get rainbow colours?? Instead of your idea, they should just let us be able to open it up while searching

#14 TheArisen

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 10:45 PM

View Postmartian, on 13 March 2016 - 10:16 PM, said:


Sorry, but it wouldn't work and I can even tell you why: Because instead of blinking button (when I don't know what that blinking means) I would be left with blinking color button (when I don't know what each of a half dozen of colors can mean).

Either go with button that will be clearly labeled as "Incoming Private Message", "Group Invite", etc., or don't even bother with redoing that original button.


Why not both ideas? They're not mutually exclusive.

#15 Navid A1

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 02:38 AM

View PostBeaching Betty, on 13 March 2016 - 10:35 PM, said:

Solution 1: What if we received all of those? Will we get rainbow colours?? Instead of your idea, they should just let us be able to open it up while searching


Agreed...

In fact being able to open the social panel with chat and friends list would solve the problem completely

Or small notification bar saying you have a unit message, etc etc

Edited by Navid A1, 14 March 2016 - 02:39 AM.


#16 Troutmonkey

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 04:30 AM

God yes. This has bother me for ages. I could understand limiting Mech construction during searching but having a total UI lockout while searching (sometimes for 5 -10 minutes at a time) is just patently bad design. That said, bad design seem to be exactly what PGI were aiming for when they designed this UI

#17 Almond Brown

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 06:04 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 13 March 2016 - 07:40 PM, said:


There is a slight difference... that flashing icon can mean a group game, a CW game or a private lobby that may become full when you come back.


Then you answered your own question, if it something you will take, then you will have to cancel anyways to get into it, so just cancel and answer the GD thing already...

#18 Navid A1

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 06:42 AM

View PostAlmond Brown, on 14 March 2016 - 06:04 AM, said:


Then you answered your own question, if it something you will take, then you will have to cancel anyways to get into it, so just cancel and answer the GD thing already...


What?

Let me explain then.
In a cinema, when your phone makes a sound, you can look at the screen and immediately know if it is a call, a message, an email, or whatever the hell it is. You can DECIDE between the movie and the phone then.

In MWO, you are already 50 seconds into your search and the button starts flashing. Do you know what is causing the flashing without moving out of the search queue?... HELL NO. You cancel the search and its just your unit mate who typed "LOL" in the unit chat. And you are off to another minute of waiting.

#19 cazidin

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 07:10 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 14 March 2016 - 06:42 AM, said:


What?

Let me explain then.
In a cinema, when your phone makes a sound, you can look at the screen and immediately know if it is a call, a message, an email, or whatever the hell it is. You can DECIDE between the movie and the phone then.

In MWO, you are already 50 seconds into your search and the button starts flashing. Do you know what is causing the flashing without moving out of the search queue?... HELL NO. You cancel the search and its just your unit mate who typed "LOL" in the unit chat. And you are off to another minute of waiting.


I appreciate your problem, Navid A1. I've ran into that problem myself. PGI is very capable of modifying the UI despite some who claim that technology is Lostech. I suspect that they'll improve the chat function when they upgrade the Engine but unfortunately that is several months away.

#20 Gattsus

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 08:24 AM

View PostNavid A1, on 13 March 2016 - 07:32 PM, said:

I get to the problems straight away.... as a picture is worth a thousand words.
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you're forgetting ctrl+arrows and ctrl+shift+arrows to move/copy words!

Edited by Gattsus, 14 March 2016 - 08:26 AM.






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