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Kaziganthi, on 12 December 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

No where in your quote does it say that units without C3 can fire whilst directing. A non C3 equipped mech cannot fire any weapons whilst spotting for indirect fire.

Again, C3 does not affect indirect LRM fire at all:

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LRM Indirect Fire
Units armed with LRM-type weapons may fire those missiles indirectly. Indirect fire allows a unit without a direct line of sight to a target to attack that target, though a friendly unit must have a valid line of sight to the target (this unit is referred to as the spotter). An attacker with a valid LOS to a target cannot make an LRM indirect fire attack, even if that attack would have a better to-hit modifier.

Resolve LRM indirect fire attacks in the turn they are launched. The base to-hit number is the firing unit’s Gunnery Skill. Use the following modifiers:

• Range modifier based on the range between the targetand the firing unit, including minimum range modifiers;
  
• +1 for indirect fire;
  
• All standard modifiers for target movement;
  
• All standard modifiers for attacker movement and a modifier for the spotter’s movement (infantry have no attacker movement modifier for spotting);
  
• Terrain modifiers based on line of sight from the spotting unit; this includes the +1 modifier if partial cover exists between the spotting unit and the target. (Regardless of whether partial cover shields the target from either the spotting unit or the attacking unit, Damage Value groupings from LRM indirect fire always strike the target and not the partial cover, even if they hit a leg location; see Partial Cover, p. 102.)

Finally, if the spotting unit makes any attacks in the turn that it spots for another unit, apply a +1 modifier to all of the spotting unit’s attacks, as well as a +1 modifier to the LRM indirect fire attack. If the spotting unit makes no attacks, do not apply these additional modifiers. The spotter can spot for any number of attacking units to a single target, but it cannot spot for multiple targets.

(Total Warfare; p. 111)

The spotter can fire either way, and takes a small penalty both to the indirect fire and to it's own attacks. C3 doesn't play into it.