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[Optimus Primus]

I am seeing more and more AFK bots and MAcro botters farming credits, you know the merc that runs in circles and shoots on the floor all the time or the one that just stand in the base and auto rejoins a game after every match.

I am starting to wonder if anything is going to be done about that?

Can the developer implant a penalty system .

Like a report system for AFK bot or macro bot, whereby if a players get too many vote they get ban for 15-30 minutes depending how many times they have been reported in matches.
First match : 15 min
Second match : 30 min

Another feature would be for people who join a game and disconnect, they should be a penalty where they cannot join the game for a certain amount of time.

The game is good but these elements mentioned above are starting to frustrate most of us, and honestly if it carries on it may force some people out.

[elbloom]

it´s getting really bad again, just had a 4 vs 7 match.....

they drop the trial mechs in to farm CB with them, then join a game in custom mech.
By the time the custom mech match is over the trial mechs are out of their respective matches, too .... and the money and xp is transferred to the farmer...

why for gods sake don´t they lock the mechBAY when you are in a match with one mech... i don´t get it how long it takes for them to make such an easy change. frustrating at least.

everyone complaining about this is either a suicider or a farmer. that change would ONLY hurt them !!! And well if you suicide I say you better spectate your team the match you blew for obvious reasons.

Edited by elbloom, 09 January 2013 - 01:48 AM.

[Optimus Primus]

That is why i am bringing this issue to the community attention and hope the game developer do not ignore these issues , its getting out of control out of 1 out of 3 matches i keep finding botters and afkers or leavers.

[Optimus Primus]

If you reading this post and agree with the above statement, can you please post here in this thread explaining how these botters , afk bots, leavers ruined your game.

[elbloom]

it´s really just so bad coz everyone has at least 4 mechs to do this with, lock the mechbay and this will reduce farmers/botters/suiciders/leavers by at least the factor 4.

4 times less of these annoyances would REALLY be great, isn´t it ?

[Gregory Owen]

this thread sounds kinda whiny to me, i'm a good player i have no problems going against bad odds sometimes, it actually is kinda fun, rather than 8v8 all the time. i win in matchs 6vs8 pretty often

Edited by Gregory Owen, 09 January 2013 - 02:04 AM.

[elbloom]

whiney or not, it hurts the new player experience.

it´s also not about losing, really, at least from my perspective... steamrolling a match with 4 farmers on the opposing side feels not so great either.

of course it could still be winnable, it just shouldn´t be that way. for the sake of new players

[Fat Samurai]

There is already a report system installed. Use it and encourage other users to use it.

I'm not really sure how often the complaint tickets are revised, but eventually you could get people singled out much easier that way than by implementing an automatic system, that I fear is going to be more difficult than what you are suggesting.

elbloom, on 09 January 2013 - 01:46 AM, said:

everyone complaining about this is either a suicider or a farmer. that change would ONLY hurt them !!! And well if you suicide I say you better spectate your team the match you blew for obvious reasons.

I would be careful with this kind of statement. No one is in possesion of the ultimate truth.

For example: Locking mechbays while you have any mech in a match means that if I make a mistake and my scout get destroyed early in the first match, I cannot jump into my Atlas and take it around for a spin. If the first match ends up with the 15 minute limit, which could happen fairly easily when they put in the larger maps and 12 mech drops, I'm locked out of a game for 10 minutes at least.

Again, we don't know how easy or difficult is to really change something and implement stuff in game. I feel that 1 person that drops isn't going to make such a huge change in my game, or at least it will be compensated next match, when the other team has the farmer, so I doubt this is going to get pushed to the top of their to-do lists.

Edited by Fat Samurai, 09 January 2013 - 02:13 AM.

[thenightisdark]

Fat Samurai, on 09 January 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

There is already a report systems installed. Use it and encourage other users to use it.

I'm not really sure how often the complaint tickets are revised, but eventually you could get people singled out much easier that way than by implementing an automatic system, that I fear is going to be more difficult than what you are suggesting.



I would be careful with this kind of statement. No one is in possesion of the ultimate truth.

For example: Locking mechbays while you have any mech in a match means that if I make a mistake and my scout get destroyed early in the first match, I cannot jump into my Atlas and take it around for a spin. If the first match ends up with the 15 minute limit, which could happen fairly easily when they put in the larger maps and 12 mech drops, I'm locked out of a game for 10 minutes at least.

Again, we don't know how easy or difficult is to really change something and implement stuff in game. I feel that 1 person that drops isn't going to make such a huge change in my game, or at least it will be compensated next match, when the other team has the farmer, so I doubt this is going to get pushed to the top of their to-do lists.

Yea, im cool with that I got to say. Oh my mistake, i took the wrong mech. I am cool with having to wait it out.

And I know it could be hard, but it has been MONTHs. How hard is it really?

[RainbowToh]

elbloom, on 09 January 2013 - 02:00 AM, said:

it´s really just so bad coz everyone has at least 4 mechs to do this with, lock the mechbay and this will reduce farmers/botters/suiciders/leavers by at least the factor 4.

4 times less of these annoyances would REALLY be great, isn´t it ?

Locking the mechlab wont be fair for those who play it properly, esp folks with many mechs. A match could easily last 5-10mins. And with MWO being unforgiving to mistakes, it is easy to get killed even if you are trying ur best.

Better to suggest other solutions to penalise such afkers n farmers rather using a blanket solution such as locking the mechlab

[Northwind Highlander]

To my opinion it is not suitable to lock the mechbay.
Sometimes you might get a yellow screen, low fps, etc or get shot early in the game. It would reduce game experience a lot if you habe to wait for the bay to unlock.

On the other hand I agree that it would be nice to eliminate the c-bills or xp gain for them.
At least for farmers it sounds pretty easy. Mech does not move - no xp or money.

[Vamboozle]

Broadly happy with the suggestions here as I'm starting to see more bots & AFKs

However I would suggest caution on a couple of things:

Optimus Primus, on 09 January 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

Another feature would be for people who join a game and disconnect, they should be a penalty where they cannot join the game for a certain amount of time.

Given it's a beta, I'm of the opinion this shouldn't happen. I reckon I get DC'd about 1 game in every 8-10 games - want to play the game yet get dumped out - mostly at the very beginning but occassionally a few minutes into the game.

Should I be punished for something I have no control over?

Also AFK's - it depends how often and for how long. I suspect, like me, most people have another life (wife, kids, a socail life) which sometimes intervenes at an awkward moment - I can't be the only one who drops into a game just as his wife calls (and I'm sorry but NO game is more inportant to me than my wife) so you start the game AFK.

As suggested we should use the reporting system and them hopefully the repeat offenders can be spotted and dealt with.

[Northwind Highlander]

Vamboozle, on 09 January 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

Also AFK's - it depends how often and for how long. I suspect, like me, most people have another life (wife, kids, a socail life) which sometimes intervenes at an awkward moment - I can't be the only one who drops into a game just as his wife calls (and I'm sorry but NO game is more inportant to me than my wife) so you start the game AFK.

As suggested we should use the reporting system and them hopefully the repeat offenders can be spotted and dealt with.

Good point. Happens to me, too. And familiy is always first.

Question: Where can I find the reporting system?

[smokefield]

agree. it may happen to anyone for a very logical reason, there are things more important than a mwo match..but if that becomes a habbit it should be punished somehow.

best way is to add disc status right beside K/D one. if the ratio of KD and disc is too big in favor of disc...then its safe to assume that the players is a disc'er and at least if the rest of the players know his name he can receive a public punishment

[Biruke]

zhit happens. just consider the farmers to be your sick teammates, who cannot fight because they have bloody flux

rotten bananas in the dropship, you know

[elbloom]

Fat Samurai, on 09 January 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

For example: Locking mechbays while you have any mech in a match means that if I make a mistake and my scout get destroyed early in the first match, I cannot jump into my Atlas and take it around for a spin. If the first match ends up with the 15 minute limit, which could happen fairly easily when they put in the larger maps and 12 mech drops, I'm locked out of a game for 10 minutes at least.

As I said, this would surely hurt suiciders (like you^^) a little bit.... but think of the benefit.

League of Legends has for a reason implemented their matchmaking in such a way that you get re-connected to the match you CHOSE to participate in until the very end of it.

And LoL is kinda successful and funny. If I were IGP/Piranha i would copy this system A.S.A.P.

edit: if you blackscreen or yellowscreen just restart the client and be reconnected to the match you were supposed to be in.

Edited by elbloom, 09 January 2013 - 04:21 AM.

[Optimus Primus]

Its getting ridiculous, just played 8 games, 6 of them had half the team afk botting or disconnecting , as i mentioned earlier its getting out of hand people are willing to do anything to get free credit

[smokefield]

i dont know where you find them...the most afk'ers i saw in a game was 2

[Buck Cake]

I have no information as to how they are spread out according to time zones, but I've been seeing less AFKers and bots during the last few weeks.

[Fat Samurai]

elbloom, on 09 January 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

As I said, this would surely hurt suiciders (like you^^) a little bit.... but think of the benefit.

Tsk, tsk, no name calling when you don't have proof.

Let's make a little friendly bet. If:

1) I have a K/D ratio below 0.5, as in, I have been killed twice as much as I killed other mechs (as any good suicider should have)

AND

2) You have a better one (proving that you are not an even worse suicider than I)

I'll apologise profusely and I'll write in my signature a message of your choice that isn't against the the rules, and will keep it for 1 month while posting at least twice a day in the forums.

Otherwise, you'll recognise I'm not an AFKer and that my suggestion might have been of some merit in this here thread

EDIT: Please, do send me a PM if you take the bet, because I'm not going to be reading the thread for a week waiting for you to agree when I'm fairly sure you won't.

Hint: As the time of this posting, the only non-trial mechs I have driven are Hunchbacks. So I don't have a lot of firepower to kill things.

Edited by Fat Samurai, 09 January 2013 - 11:47 AM.