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[TAsme]

I was piloting my centurion CN9-AL and lost a leg from a nice shot from the enemy.
The ammo in my lost leg explodet - leading to a chain reaction - my side torso got destroyed (no ammo was in it) and finally my reactor got blown up.

Dead by ammo exploding in my leg? o.O

[Tombe0]

Works as intended, actually the ammo 'splosion should've transferred straigth into your CT since legs are connected to CT, not side torsos.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Tombe0, on 22 February 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:

Works as intended, actually the ammo 'splosion should've transferred straigth into your CT since legs are connected to CT, not side torsos.

Nope, legs and arms both transfer damage to the side torsos first in this game.

[DEN_Ninja]

Spelling the word, Intended, correctly was intended but not functional.

Putting ammo in the legs is risky business friend.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

if more damage is done, take a hit as a zone can, and no CASE is embedded into this target area, the excess damage to adjacent target areas will be distributed, eg the lateral torso areas .. then there is still used an XL engine, then BOOM

[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

Yeh, it happens. Blowing legs off is very under-rated cause people like putting ammo there.

[TAsme]

Got no XL engine in it - so center shouldn't be affected at all.

[One Medic Army]

Only CASE prevents ammo explosions from affecting your CT.
If there is sufficient damage leftover in the ammo explosion it will rip through your mech until it hits CT.
First it explodes the leg/arm, then the side torso, then the center torso. Then the mech is dead.

[Critical Fumble]

It may have to do with how damage transfer works - you leg went up, the excess damage transferred to the side torso, which went up, and the excess from that transferred into your center torso.

Your name wouldn't happen to be Brian, would it?

[ForceUser]

you know what would really suck? If your leg gets blwon up with ammo in it, it transfers jsut enough damage to destroy your side torso but not your CT, only, you havea gauss in that side torso... that blows up

That'd be bad luck Brian right there.

[PwnStars]

ForceUser, on 22 February 2013 - 03:28 AM, said:

you know what would really suck? If your leg gets blwon up with ammo in it, it transfers jsut enough damage to destroy your side torso but not your CT, only, you havea gauss in that side torso... that blows up

That'd be bad luck Brian right there.

Though, most of the time gauss explosion isn't enough too blow up the side torso.

[ForceUser]

Depends on how badly damaged your ct was to begin with, or if there was enough damaged transfered from the leg ammo to damage but not destroy it.

But yea, it's only really an issue with XL's

[PurpleNinja]

Tombe0, on 22 February 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:

Works as intended, actually the ammo 'splosion should've transferred straigth into your CT since legs are connected to CT, not side torsos.

Following Battletech TT rules, damage done to a destroyed leg is transferred to the respective side torso internal structure.

[Polojilarious]

Working as intended.

I asked about this a while ago; and the answer was thus:

When ammo explodes, it does whatever damage was left in the stack. One full ton of srm ammo exploding means 2.5 * 100 for 250 damage.

So one ton of srm ammo in your leg explodes, takes off the leg, and transfers damage inwards to the side torso. Side torso gets destroyed because 250 damage, and the rest of the damage transfers in. And then you lose your ct.

And even more fun, all ammo in a component auto-explodes if you lose that component. So, if you're storing your ac5 ammo in your ac5 arm and lose the arm, whatever ammo is left all explodes and damages your side torso, despite the arm not even being attached anymore. And yeah, the damage will be enough to kill you.

Even in an atlas.

An explosion from a single ton of any kind of ammo (not counting ams or narc) placed anywhere on a mech basically does enough damage to kill any mech outright.

Well, unless you're running a standard engine and CASE, but who even does that.

It is pants-on-head garbage, but this is apparently working as intended.

[Moonsavage]

Moar Legarmour.

Not had this happen very often - tbh if your leg pops, you're pretty much done.

[SgtMagor]

hmm, maybe I be lucky cause my Atlas has been through a few ammo explosions, what killed me off was the fact I couldn't shoot back and you cant get very far going 48 kmh

[Mawai]

Polojilarious, on 22 February 2013 - 04:10 AM, said:

Working as intended.

I asked about this a while ago; and the answer was thus:

When ammo explodes, it does whatever damage was left in the stack. One full ton of srm ammo exploding means 2.5 * 100 for 250 damage.

So one ton of srm ammo in your leg explodes, takes off the leg, and transfers damage inwards to the side torso. Side torso gets destroyed because 250 damage, and the rest of the damage transfers in. And then you lose your ct.

And even more fun, all ammo in a component auto-explodes if you lose that component. So, if you're storing your ac5 ammo in your ac5 arm and lose the arm, whatever ammo is left all explodes and damages your side torso, despite the arm not even being attached anymore. And yeah, the damage will be enough to kill you.

Even in an atlas.

An explosion from a single ton of any kind of ammo (not counting ams or narc) placed anywhere on a mech basically does enough damage to kill any mech outright.

Well, unless you're running a standard engine and CASE, but who even does that.

It is pants-on-head garbage, but this is apparently working as intended.

I'm not sure that the ammo will auto-explode if the component section is destroyed. I was under the impression that a critical hit on ammo was required to cause an ammo explosion.

[Taizan]

This topic was moved to the Player Help sub forum, where it is more appropriate.

[Redshift2k5]

TAsme, on 22 February 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

Got no XL engine in it - so center shouldn't be affected at all.

If the ammo detonated dealt sufficient damage, the damage will go through the leg, through the side torso, and into the CT, resulting in a mech destruction. This is the risk you take putting ammo in your legs (or arms). Try torso-mounted ammo with a CASE.

[pseudocoder]

Brown Hornet, on 22 February 2013 - 02:31 AM, said:

Yeh, it happens. Blowing legs off is very under-rated cause people like putting ammo there.

I don't think blowing off legs is underrated, they're hard to hit reliably and typically have as much armor (each) as a side torso or even center torso. Unless you are trying to cripple a fast mover it's usually better to go for torso shots, all other things being equal. Obviously if someone's already stripped armor there you're going to go for the legs.

OP: Yeah ammo explosions hurt...a lot. They are also subject to chain reactions so if you have 2 tons in one leg and one of them gets hit, it can set the other one off, which just piles on more damage. Excess damage flows inwards towards your engine, so yeah, any ammo explosion has the potential to kill you, and often does.

Edited by pseudocoder, 22 February 2013 - 08:21 AM.