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[Thoummim]

The result are here time for fresh stats !

With an average of 5min per games :

The light winner have played at least : 39H
The medium winner have played at least : 30H
The heavy winner have played at least : 44H
The assault winner have played at least : 35H

And that only for 5min average, if I take a 7min 30s average -a normal game- that mean the heavy winner has played more time than the "tournament" last...


Contragulation for your "my life sucks" banner.

[ClaymoreReIIik]

Thoummim, on 25 February 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

The result are here time for fresh stats !

With an average of 5min per games :

The light winner have played at least : 39H
The medium winner have played at least : 30H
The heavy winner have played at least : 44H
The assault winner have played at least : 35H

And that only for 5min average, if I take a 7min 30s average -a normal game- that mean the heavy winner has played more time than the "tournament" last...


Contragulation for your "my life sucks" banner.

Lets just assume for arguments sake that one of the winners has a wife that likes playing MW:O too and they are not having any children yet. Lets assume she is pregnant.

Lets further assume that this guy has a job where he can easily take a day or 2 off anytime he wants. (You know a right to take a day off is pretty common in germany for example.)

Lets further assume his wife said "cool, lets rock this event" and she makes him food and coffee and encourages him to keep going when he is about to fall asleep or give up.

Wouldn't that be entirely possible? Would that kinda life really suck?

[DocBach]

Yeah, my wife plays Call of Duty on X-box competitively. One those weekends I watch the kids. This was my weekend to dork out, and it felt pretty good man.

[ClaymoreReIIik]

DocBach, on 26 February 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

Yeah, my wife plays Call of Duty on X-box competitively. One those weekends I watch the kids. This was my weekend to dork out, and it felt pretty good man.

Those nerdgasms every now and then feel good, but I would not want to do stuff like that every weekend....not any more at least. I kinda got to old for that, I guess.

[Nash]

Heyhey...

even if i did only reach rank 35 at the overall leaderboard with about 256 games and my regular sleeping time it was quiet fun to see how many PUG's there were and how the different people work and play with each other.

I did see that there were some i*i*ts who are trying to make fun about all and nothing but in general most players were great and there were alot of games I really enjoyed (even if I did lose several of them ^^ ) because it really was fun and the result of the match was decided by the last mech in the team.

Actually I had less 8:0 wins/loses during the weekend than before this event and so imho it was fun.

I think it is a good idea of PGI to gain some match score from single players. (lone wolves) Even if it is sometimes strange that at one match you have 0 match score *cough* and at the other 163.

So I think I still have to learn how the match score will be calculated but I suppose for 7 points of damage you will gain 1 match score... (I think I had a match at which I only did 21 points of damage and did gain only 3 match score points ^^ )

[ciller]

Xenroth, on 25 February 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

I wouldn't call a 5 point difference in nearly 500 games we both made to be more skillful lol

Sure he earned his #1 because i know what he went trough but in the end he was just a bit more lucky than I was

Battle for lights was intense and the score of both you and RedDiablo are so close it's uncanny. I really can't believe it came down to so few points between you two. Also be glad that miGu stopped playing!! His points per match is crazy.

[ClaymoreReIIik]

ciller, on 26 February 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

Battle for lights was intense and the score of both you and RedDiablo are so close it's uncanny. I really can't believe it came down to so few points between you two. Also be glad that miGu stopped playing!! His points per match is crazy.

I honestly don't believe Migu's points per match were done "solo-dropping". He probably had people sync-dropping because you could only do those points per match if you had several spottings assists and won through capping while going over 500 dmg.

The 500 dmg per match is something a great Raven pilot can pull off. The consistent spotting assists and cap-wins in the high ELO-rating group he was in not so much...

[ciller]

ClaymoreReIIik, on 26 February 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

I honestly don't believe Migu's points per match were done "solo-dropping". He probably had people sync-dropping because you could only do those points per match if you had several spottings assists and won through capping while going over 500 dmg.

The 500 dmg per match is something a great Raven pilot can pull off. The consistent spotting assists and cap-wins in the high ELO-rating group he was in not so much...

I'm not so sure, many people tried sync dropping at the start of the tournament and it just didn't work. Most of the time you were either not in the same match or not on the same team, the latter making things worse often then better.

Plus I dropped from time to time with him, seems pretty legit and he was running a jenner, not the raven 3L like many were. From my point of view he seemed to be NOT working the system, but rather excelling despite the system.

[Grenadapult]

Thanks God people like Chuckie were ranting early on, or I might have competed. Once I realized it was about ACCUMULATED points, I was out. It reminded me of growing up in the 1990's. Me and some buddies would all get together for some SEGA on a big screen. Dude would show up with some Mortla Kombat, and most would cheer, but not I. I always knew the out come. No matter HOW GOOD you are, somebody's little sister would just stand there with their tiny arms, pounding the kick button too fast to counter. Skill no longer mattered. That 18 button combo move you mastered, just became irrelevant. It was all about who hand a hand like a machine gun. This tourney was pretty much a highly advanced evolution....of that.
And I'm shocked to see no one ranting about the fact that it was a PUG only tourney, but before we have PUG only matchmaking. I talked to people going "that guy is on the tourney boards, get him first!!" So premades were actually focusing on tourney players. WTF???
PGI, this is one of those times I remind myself "Stay cool, this is BETA. That means its not intended to be perfect. We are here to see what works and what doesn't." I'm thinking you already know at this point, this style tournament doesn't work.

[ClaymoreReIIik]

ciller, on 26 February 2013 - 04:54 AM, said:

I'm not so sure, many people tried sync dropping at the start of the tournament and it just didn't work. Most of the time you were either not in the same match or not on the same team, the latter making things worse often then better.

Plus I dropped from time to time with him, seems pretty legit and he was running a jenner, not the raven 3L like many were. From my point of view he seemed to be NOT working the system, but rather excelling despite the system.

I think I saw him in some drops in Raven 3L. I guess he did what everyone did. Play the 3L and quit match after you died to play the Jenner.

If he did his points per match totally solo then.."holy mother of god that guy is primary target from now on".

Edited by ClaymoreReIIik, 26 February 2013 - 05:33 AM.

[Xenroth]

ciller, on 26 February 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

Battle for lights was intense and the score of both you and RedDiablo are so close it's uncanny. I really can't believe it came down to so few points between you two. Also be glad that miGu stopped playing!! His points per match is crazy.

Yeah the only difference between RedDiablo and me is, that he had some friends sync dropping with him, otherwise i cant explain why he sometimes just rushed away with doing 12 points in 15 minutes more than i do. That would have meant he would have 3 games giving him like 5 points each which is really lucky and i only did 1 point and that happened a few times and looks quite strange to me.

But yeah miGu would have done #1 if he wouldn't went offline. And he only piloted his Jenner when his Raven was still in battle because I only saw him in his Raven

[ciller]

Xenroth, on 26 February 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

Yeah the only difference between RedDiablo and me is, that he had some friends sync dropping with him, otherwise i cant explain why he sometimes just rushed away with doing 12 points in 15 minutes more than i do. That would have meant he would have 3 games giving him like 5 points each which is really lucky and i only did 1 point and that happened a few times and looks quite strange to me.

But yeah miGu would have done #1 if he wouldn't went offline. And he only piloted his Jenner when his Raven was still in battle because I only saw him in his Raven

Weird I only got drops with him in his Jenner.

[ClaymoreReIIik]

ciller, on 26 February 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Weird I only got drops with him in his Jenner.

I did not see him dropping in Jenner at all...

The matchmaking made a few weird choices. We had people in a few drops where the matchmaking placed Migu and Reddiablo on the same team. And when I say a few I mean so many that we thought they are syncro-dropping for a while.

Other games it pits the top medium, top heavy and top light pilots against people who barely find the power-up button in the dark....ELO matchmaking at its finest...

Edited by ClaymoreReIIik, 26 February 2013 - 06:56 AM.

[Cubivorre]

ClaymoreReIIik, on 26 February 2013 - 06:55 AM, said:

I did not see him dropping in Jenner at all... The matchmaking made a few weird choices. We had people in a few drops where the matchmaking placed Migu and Reddiablo on the same team. And when I say a few I mean so many that we thought they are syncro-dropping for a while. Other games it pits the top medium, top heavy and top light pilots against people who barely find the power-up button in the dark....ELO matchmaking at its finest...

Yup, only saw him in the 3L, and he was pretty much just suicide rushing.

[Nash]

Grenadapult, on 26 February 2013 - 05:32 AM, said:

[...]
And I'm shocked to see no one ranting about the fact that it was a PUG only tourney, but before we have PUG only matchmaking. I talked to people going "that guy is on the tourney boards, get him first!!" So premades were actually focusing on tourney players. WTF???
[...]

I wouldn't say that it was like that. Sure there were some guys who were behaving like that but I also had several guys (mostly when they were on my team) who did say:

"Hey, that guy is trying to be on the top score...let's try to help him."

And yes...mostly these matches were the best I did expierience because than there was team work.

But there were also matches when all guys did just sit in the beginning and were chatting about this and that or were asking if you are improving and so on.

So in my opinion the community was following the event and if they did see a name they could remeber they gave kudos to the participants of the event.

Even if I wasn't in the top 10 I have to say thank you to all who were polite/patient and had fun with this game/event while several guys did try to do their best.

It was a weekend I enjoyed and that is in my humble opinion much more important than gaining a badge.

[danust]

Viewpoint from a 3 month solo pugger not enrolled:
I like many others I think knew we were not good enough yet to compete. Middle of the road and happy with my progress but some of you pilots are down right dangerous. We are coming lol.

The tourney even with it's few faults was fantastic. Recognized many of the names on the leaderboard as the tourney progressed. Just as entertainment it was a win.

The level of play all weekend was topnotch on all levels. I played more than normal due to this. ELO placed me fairly I thought.

There was a sense of urgency that is lacking at times. I payed attention from the start or paid the price.

There did seem to be more teamwork. More txt commo. More of the elite (and I do mean elite) pilots helping the team overall. Above what is a perfectly fine normal.

And if I saw a pilot I knew was on the board, I watched their back a little more than normal. My team only of course. That red team is awful.

More tourneys please. I don't know if they can do a skill level bracketed tourney or even if it would be a good thing-no participation medals wanted, but an idea. But another just like this one would be just fine. More people would participate with a little more warning maybe. I had a clear calendar so fine for me.

Congrats to the winners. I watched some amazing play to inspire me. That Treb JJ airborne attack was movie quality.

Thanks PGI for the bonus earnings too. BT Mechwarior fan for years. Things are looking very good for Mechwarrior universe finally. I used to think it might be cursed. 10 yrs!

*By Sat night I was regretting not joining. I had a good run but I expected the play to be skewed, was not, and might have made a 15 min listing . There might be more participants next time because of this.

[ciller]

Those thinking about joining, it was really tough! You had to both function well without much sleep and be an awesome pilot more often then not. The average damage per match was 300 and a kdr of around 2. To be in the top 10 you had to post well over 300 dmg a match and consistently higher then 2 kills per death. I was trying to average at least 2 kills a game, let alone per death.

Mix that with the need to sleep yet everyone is putting the pressure on to go for first - I was lucky enough the second day to get such a lead (60 points) that the only person I had to worry about was 2nd place - and even then my play suffered so much from that marathon/lack of sleep that he beat me in the last hour. Was such a close match!!

[Rushin Roulette]

One thing I noticed from the tournament... the gameplay was really terrible overall compared to good 8v8 matches between 2 even teams.

The Tournament gamestyle was in nearly every sence incredibly agressive with very little actual tactical planning such as setting traps and diversions for the opponents. In that sence Im finding it a nightmare to get the tournament players in our unit down from the adrenaline high to focus on overall teamwork again.

But after all that haveing been said. It was also incredibly fun to play random games where people were communicating more through text chat and at least trying to focus fire (managing pretty well quite often). The players were watching their teammates more attentively (more often than not to be able to get that final kill shot in ).

After a few PUG games last night when everyone has calmed down, I am missing that tournament game play in PUG matches... its so frustrating to see players shambling around in the back of a group again, even though they are not ECMed and the fight is obviously happening 400 meters infront of them. They are being so passive it sometimes hurts to watch.

[DocBach]

Rushin Roulette, on 28 February 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

In that sence Im finding it a nightmare to get the tournament players in our unit down from the adrenaline high to focus on overall teamwork again.

we've got tournament PTSD

[SolCrusher]

Boooo I missed the tourney! I want number 2 on the heavy boards and number 8 overall!!!!!! Bow before the SPEC!