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#61 KharnZor

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:25 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:



I'm not being sarcastic. and on top of being a better than pc's, having better games than pc's as well, consoles also have better graphics. I don't have to spend thousands of dollars on a computer for sub par graphics when i can spend 300$ on a console and get only the best.

look and weep losers, this is why microsoft is the best company in the world, stay jelly with your terribad 1200$ computers and your bad games and graphics.

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and this is why consoles will always be superior. bask in that 2080p definition. and if you impotent nerds don't think thats terrifying, just wait until the xbox 720, it will be even better than that.


View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

Don't be dissing on Minecraft.


View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

its graphics are terrible, maybe you should play good games instead? It doesn't even have a good story like black ops 2

View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

1. The graphics are actually as they are for a very good reason. The game, even with its current "crappy" graphics, uses up a disproportionally huge amount of CPU because of the large amount of stuff it has to load. If it had modern graphics, you would probably have to have a SuperCray computer to make it even load.

2. Minecraft isn't supposed to have a story. It's a sandbox. Players make their own stories.

3. It is a good game. It's really just meant for different people. For instance, I personally can't stand racing games but there are lots of people that love them. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

so it's as I said, pc's are inferior.



yeah that sounds lame, I think I'd prefer to trust a professional with story writing over some lame nerd. microsoft ea and activision know what they're doing. sandbox is just lingo for a bad game with no direction.



those delicious loser tears. keep coming up with excuses for why your terrible loser game is good while I own some more noobs in halo lol.

you can add me if you want, my tag is xXxStOn3rxXx_PrO_xXx42OxXx

rofl

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

so it's as I said, pc's are inferior.

There aren't yet any consoles that run nearly as fast as a supercomputer (such as a Cray), so I don't really see how that "is as you said." Also, consoles technically are computers as well in circuitry and many of the same functions, you just can't swap out internal parts (i.e. RAM, video card, etc.) without voiding your warranty.

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:

those delicious loser tears. keep coming up with excuses for why your terrible loser game is good while I own some more noobs in halo lol.

My eyes are quite dry right now but thanks for your concern.

Edited by FupDup, 28 February 2013 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

Don't feed the trolls.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:40 PM

View PostColonel Pada Vinson, on 23 February 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

ELO should fix this to a large extent. I agree on the ECM issues somewhat in how they cripple LRMS and the frustration of this for new players who just want to grab a mech and play. New training modes should help.

reality is mechwarrior has never been easy for newbies vs other FPS.

Your piloting a battlemech son.

It ain't supposed to be easy.


I finished Mechwarrior 2 long after Mechwarrior 4 was out. Took me years to figure out the game Mechanics enough to really get through the campaign.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:41 PM

Lolz, trollers gonna troll.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:45 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:



I'm not being sarcastic. and on top of being a better than pc's, having better games than pc's as well, consoles also have better graphics. I don't have to spend thousands of dollars on a computer for sub par graphics when i can spend 300$ on a console and get only the best.

look and weep losers, this is why microsoft is the best company in the world, stay jelly with your terribad 1200$ computers and your bad games and graphics.

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and this is why consoles will always be superior. bask in that 2080p definition. and if you impotent nerds don't think thats terrifying, just wait until the xbox 720, it will be even better than that.


You are so trollin'

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostBGrey, on 28 February 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Don't feed the trolls.

But it's so tempting...

Plus, if you feed them for a while they'll start to not pay attention to what gets put in their food supply...

Edited by FupDup, 28 February 2013 - 05:47 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

There aren't yet any consoles that run nearly as fast as a supercomputer (such as a Cray), so I don't really see how that "is as you said." Also, consoles technically are computers as well in circuitry and many of the same functions, you just can't swap out internal parts (i.e. RAM, video card, etc.) without voiding your warranty.


but I'm talking about gaming, pc's are bad at games and thus they have bad games. consoles are good at games and thus they have good games.

as far as hardware goes, that figuring that kind of stuff is for losers and not worth my time. microsoft knows what they're doing- but hey enjoy no exclusives, bad games, and poorly made ports while I enjoy the real deal.

View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

My eyes are quite dry right now but thanks for your concern.


whatever you say lol. I know a crying baby when I see one, go back to your "minecraft" XD

Edited by Battlecruiser, 28 February 2013 - 05:55 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

Well I could tell you all the reasons and even give PGI all the answers to fix all of MWO But who the hell is listening? Not PGI.Posted ImageYou Humans Should Really Start Listening.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:01 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

but I'm talking about gaming, pc's are bad at games and thus they have bad games. consoles are good at games and thus they have good games.

as far as hardware goes, that figuring that kind of stuff is for losers and not worth my time. microsoft knows what they're doing- but hey enjoy no exclusives, bad games, and poorly made ports while I enjoy the real deal.

The funny part about that is that a large chunk of console games also have PC versions with identical gameplay (notable console-only games include Halo and GoW). An even funnier part is that Microsoft pretty much owns the PC gaming market because almost all games are made specifically for Windows only (Mac games are rare). There are some PC exclusives, namely real-time strategy games (playing those with a controller is difficult) and the entire Free-To-Play market.

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:


whatever you say lol. I know a crying baby when I see one, go back to your "minecraft" XD

If by "crying baby" you mean "random, bored passerby" then you're absolutely correct. Also, I haven't played Minecraft in quite a while (college eats up a lot of time, plus MWO is my current gig).

Edited by FupDup, 28 February 2013 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:10 PM

View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

The funny part about that is that a large chunk of console games also have PC versions with identical gameplay (notable console-only games include Halo and GoW). An even funnier part is that Microsoft pretty much owns the PC gaming market because almost all games are made specifically for Windows only (Mac games are rare). There are some PC exclusives, namely real-time strategy games (playing those with a controller is difficult) and the entire Free-To-Play market.

the pc versions are garbage. they look worse, and play worse. not to mention you have to spend 1000 dollars at least on a computer. if you want the real and best looking experience you have to play on a console. and of course microsoft owns the gaming market, it's why they make the 360. and as far as strategy games go? strategy games are boring and for losers.

View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

If by "crying baby" you mean "random, bored passerby" then you're absolutely correct. Also, I haven't played Minecraft in quite a while (college eats up a lot of time, plus MWO is my current gig).

if you say so lol!

Edited by Battlecruiser, 28 February 2013 - 06:11 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:13 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

the pc versions are garbage. they look worse, and play worse. not to mention you have to spend 1000 dollars at least on a computer. if you want the real and best looking experience you have to play on a console. and of course microsoft owns the gaming market, it's why they make the 360. and as far as strategy games go? strategy games are boring and for losers.


if you say so lol!

no u

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:19 PM

I'm glad he was trolling...too bad there are many like him that are serious ;(

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

the pc versions are garbage. they look worse, and play worse. not to mention you have to spend 1000 dollars at least on a computer. if you want the real and best looking experience you have to play on a console. and of course microsoft owns the gaming market, it's why they make the 360. and as far as strategy games go? strategy games are boring and for losers.


if you say so lol!


Who invited the troll?

Anyway, 360, not so great. CD drives are only suppose to last 2-4 years. My xbox already killed its drive.
PC, I still have one from about 10 years that still works fine, along with all the games on it.
Gaming platform, they make a new one in a few years after they release it. Then you have to get the new one if you want new game.
PC, new game comes out, I can add in more Ram, change out video card, replace/update drives and it still works.
Platform, power supply breaks, buy new one or pay professional to fix. Very little I can do. (Can replace CD drive of Xbox, if I'm careful)
PC, with ease replace power supply.
PC can also:
- be used to create my art.
- explore the internet with ease.
- type and communicate with ease.
- store files and important documents.
- play a large variety of game types, but just maybe not excel at action type game.
Game console:
- play games.
- limited to only select games that will run on the Platform.
- has better graphics for the games that run on it, for a decent price. (some computers can as well though)
- limited to controller format. No real keyboard.
- requires almost all programs and games to be an additional purchase.
- minecraft is not the only pc game. (though it can be fun with friends)
- minecraft is Also on the Xbox...

PC has more versatility, console has more focus and better in it's focused elements though a pc can also have great gaming abilities as well, but at more cost.


So, anyway, after my useless comparison that will likely be ignored, what does this have to do with this thread's subject?

edits from kindle going crazy and putting whatever words it wanted to in...

Edited by Tesunie, 28 February 2013 - 06:34 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:36 PM

View Postxhrit, on 23 February 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

During the mech love event I created a new account and applied the free day of premium time to test the new user experience.

Premium plus cadet bonus for 25 pug matches in a trial mech; 10 wins, 15 losses, earned me just over 14 mil c-bills, and 7.5k xp on the Catapult K2.

My KDR during the first 25 trial mech games was 0.5.

I then purchased a K2 and an A1. After I took out the machine guns and fully upgraded the k2 with DHS, endosteel, max armor, pulse lasers and a bigger engine, I won the next 5 games in a row without dying a single time.

The KDR on that account is now 1.0.


Makes a strong point for a battlevalue system too - stating what we know - heavily upgraded battlemechs are far superior to stock & trial ones, and give a pilot a very significant advantage - matching mechs with battlevalue & tonnage seems amplified in importance.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

Lolz, I have a PS3, 2 Xbox360s, and a (was top of the line about 6 months ago) PC gaming rig. I have Skyrim on my PC and borrowed it for Xbox for comparison. Not only was Skyrim better looking in stock form on the PC, but it ran with MUCH higher framerates, 90 to be exact. The Xbox version, not only looked worse but had a lower resolution and capped out at 45 frames. I used the same TV, by the way. Oh, and while you're stuck with a mediocre looking stock TES5 on Xbox, I got some beautimous mods for my PC.

Then there is Rage for the PS3, which I also have on PC. Again, the PS3 version looks like a steamy pile of ****, whereas my PC version is again, exquisite to look at, with higher frames to boot.

Me thinks ye are the sucker that thinks your $100 HDMI cable from BestBuy is better than the $5 HDMI cable from Newegg or Amazon.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:54 PM

View PostNonsense, on 28 February 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

I'm glad he was trolling...too bad there are many like him that are serious ;(

tell me about it ;_;

View PostFupDup, on 28 February 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

no u

it's hard to find a valid rebuttal. when this became a thing a couple of my friends and myself sat down and had a think tank, and what we came up with was dragging it into a no u fight, pulling a johnny, or saying "now u". the latter becoming sort of an inside joke, but i digress

NO U

View PostTesunie, on 28 February 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:


Who invited the troll?

Anyway, 360, not so great. CD drives are only suppose to last 2-4 years. My xbox already killed its drive.
PC, I still have one from about 10 years that still works fine, along with all the games on it.
Gaming platform, they make a new one in a few years after they release it. Then you have to get the new one if you want new game.
PC, new game comes out, I can add in more Ram, change out video card, replace/update drives and it still works.
Platform, power supply breaks, buy new one or pay professional to fix. Very little I can do. (Can replace CD drive of Xbox, if I'm careful)
PC, with ease replace power supply.
PC can also:
- be used to create my art.
- explore the internet with ease.
- type and communicate with ease.
- store files and important documents.
- play a large variety of game types, but just maybe not excel at action type game.
Game console:
- play games.
- limited to only select games that will run on the Platform.
- has better graphics for the games that run on it, for a decent price. (some computers can as well though)
- limited to controller format. No real keyboard.
- requires almost all programs and games to be an additional purchase.
- minecraft is not the only pc game. (though it can be fun with friends)
- minecraft is Also on the Xbox...

PC has more versatility, console has more focus and better in it's focused elements though a pc can also have great gaming abilities as well, but at more cost.


So, anyway, after my useless comparison that will likely be ignored, what does this have to do with this thread's subject?

edits from kindle going crazy and putting whatever words it wanted to in...

building a pc is too expensive and complicated. the other alternative is buying a dell but the computer has no good games and a console is cheaper. Plus i'm talking about games, not that nerd crap like photoshop and programming.

and actually, on that note, why is **** censored but not crap? isn't that profanity bias?

Edited by Battlecruiser, 28 February 2013 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:


building a pc is too expensive and complicated. the other alternative is buying a dell but the computer has no good games and a console is cheaper.


I built mine for same price I got my PS3 at. MSI motherboard, 550ti, 8gb RAM, PSU, and an i7. I just recycled a case, some fans, my harddrives, and DVD drive.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostJohanssenJr, on 28 February 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

I built mine for same price I got my PS3 at. MSI motherboard, 550ti, 8gb RAM, PSU, and an i7. I just recycled a case, some fans, my harddrives, and DVD drive.


well the ps3 is an overly expensive blu ray player that can't even do high definition audio or real 1080p. 600$ for no games lol.

also my xbox has better specs than that because microsoft made it.

Edited by Battlecruiser, 28 February 2013 - 07:03 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostBattlecruiser, on 28 February 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

it's hard to find a valid rebuttal. when this became a thing a couple of my friends and myself sat down and had a think tank, and what we came up with was dragging it into a no u fight, pulling a johnny, or saying "now u". the latter becoming sort of an inside joke, but i digress

NO U

no u





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