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[Spinning Burr]

Which of your mechs that you own and play would you bring to a competitive tournament to get the job done. Assume you can't coordinate with a team beforehand and are dropped with a random lance. Which mechs bring home the bacon?

For me it would be the following:
Light category: Spider 5D (I don't own jenners or ravens)
Medium category: Cicada 2A (Treb 5J as alternate)
Heavy: Flame (Cataphract 3D as alternate)
Assault: Awesome 9M (I don't own stalkers or atlases)

Which of your mechs from your team above would be captain?

Mine would be the cicada 2A.

[Kassatsu]

Light: RVN-3L
Medium: Cicada-3M
Heavy: Ilya Muromets
Assault: Atlas D-DC

Not sure what you mean by captain, lance commander? Leader of the 8 (or better yet, 12) man team?

Atlas D-DC would be captain regardless.

If forced to use mechs I actually own, I'd have to switch to HBK-4SP for medium, and wouldn't even be able to enter with heavy or assault.

Edited by Kassatsu, 21 February 2013 - 11:38 PM.

[Spinning Burr]

The captain is your #1 go to mech to win, kill, etc. It's not the leader of a team of mechs, just the VIP/MVP. Please state mechs that you own and not the ones by reputation. I don't own a raven 3L and never will. I own a Cat A1 but don't like it.

[Kassatsu]

Well, as I said in my first post, I'd use my 3L and HBK-4SP but would not even have a heavy or assault to enter with. I will say that medium would not be my #1 choice now that the trebuchet is out, but I haven't exactly bought three new trebuchets to grind efficiencies on yet. I'm also not going by 'reputation' specifically, unless reputation counts as personally seeing those mechs perform exceptionally well (at least compared to other mechs/variants) more often than not in matches I've been a part in.

Edited by Kassatsu, 21 February 2013 - 11:48 PM.

[Lindonius]

Surely it's Raven 3L, Hunch 4SP, Splatcat, DDC.

[One Medic Army]

After completely losing self respect and buying/playing a Raven-3L once it's my obvious choice if I'd rather win than have self respect.
For mediums I'd use, out of the mechs I own, HunchP or Trem 7M
For heavies Cataphract 2X or 4X (ppc sniper or gauss sniper)
For assaults, out of what I own, I'd probably go for a mixed loadout 3F I've been playing with. I don't own any Atlases aside from Founders.

[SerEdvard]

My lineup:

COM-2D
CN9-AL
DRG-FLAME (CAPTAIN)
ASD-7 trial (because i don't own any assaults)

[p00k]

light: raven 3l
medium: cicada 3m, hbk 4sp, cent a, or cent d, depending on team composition
heavy: phract 3d or cat a1, depending on if brawling or sniping
assault: atlas ddc or rs, depending on if brawling or sniping

edit: and if no mandatory class mix, for a team of 8,
2x raven 3l
3x phract 3d
3x atlas rs

or

2x raven 3l
3x cat a1
3x atlas ddc

give or take one, depending on who's better with what mech

Edited by p00k, 22 February 2013 - 12:05 AM.

[Spinning Burr]

Lindonius, on 21 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Surely it's Raven 3L, Hunch 4SP, Splatcat, DDC.

Yours is definitely the safe bet in Vegas. Thankfully there is a tournament scoreboard this weekend and we shall see. Statistically speaking, you should be right. There will be plenty of players with vendettas and chips on their shoulders to stay awake all weekend making sure this doesn't happen so that they can cite it later in forum arguments.

[Deathlike]

Technically, we should have a "which mech is most likely win the tourney bettin' thread" or something.. because, it would be amusing to watch.

With that said, anyone not taking a Raven 3L for the lights must be brave or crazy... or both.

With the others, there are some favorites, but medium would be of the most interest (there's no clear winner IMO)... you can't really automatically say the the Atlas DC is a sure winner...

With heavies, it's hard to not go with a cata (splatcat or the K2) with some splatter of phracts (3D or 4X or ilya), but not to be forgotten and sneaky dragon...

Edited by Deathlike, 22 February 2013 - 12:13 AM.

[Ghogiel]

Lindonius, on 21 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Surely it's Raven 3L, Hunch 4SP, Splatcat, DDC.

[Spinning Burr]

p00k, on 22 February 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

light: raven 3l
medium: cicada 3m, hbk 4sp, cent a, or cent d, depending on team composition
heavy: phract 3d or cat a1, depending on if brawling or sniping
assault: atlas ddc or rs, depending on if brawling or sniping

edit: and if no mandatory class mix, for a team of 8,
2x raven 3l
3x phract 3d
3x atlas rs

or

2x raven 3l
3x cat a1
3x atlas ddc

give or take one, depending on who's better with what mech

A team of 2 3Ls, 3 A1's, and 3 DDC's would be a nightmare for sure and just about indestructable. I would just tweak that combo with one more 3L and one less DDC and you have the perfect team of killers. Now call them Steiner and base them out of Germany and enter the tournament.

The job of the DDC's is to give ecm cover to A1's and stay alive the whole round. The job of A1's is to protect DDC's and kill anything that comes within their ecm bubble killzone. The job of ravens is to do what ever the hell they want anywhere anytime.

Edited by Spinning Burr, 22 February 2013 - 12:46 AM.

[Doyle]

I used these over the tournament weekend.

Light

Raven 3L - ECM, 3x medium lasers and 2x streak SRM2s and occasionally the;

Raven 4X - 1x LBX10 and 2x Medium Pulse and;

Raven 2X - 2x PPCs, (now upgraded to ER PPCs post tournament and I'm still not decided on which I prefer, no minimum range 'vs' I can fire forever >.<)

Medium

Centurion 9-AL - 2x PPCs and 2x SRM6

Heavy

Catapult C1(F) - 2x PPCs and 2x SRM6s (also upgraded to ER PPCs post tournament)

Assault

Atlas 7-D(F) - 4x medium lasers, 2x LBX10s and 2x SRM6s (my g/f witnessed this mech get dropped into alpine over and over, seriously guys I even tried waiting until I had just been on alpine to drop this only to have it drop me right into another alpine match which is why I started running the Awesome instead... there was so much swearing... especially the multiple times I ended up on alpine twice in a row... with a brawling assault class... I was coming up with whole new combinations of profanities >.<)

Awesome 8Q - 4x PPCs

Yes, I know there are more hardcore builds out there and I have some myself but these are the mechs I chose to use and stuck with. I didn't want to cheese my way through the tournament. To make it clear I by no means think these builds are the best, they are just what I was in the mood for over the weekend. I used the founders cat and atlas because I didn't want to miss out on the bonus money we could earn this weekend, without making myself a bit of extra cash what else was I going to get out of this?

Edited by Doyle, 26 February 2013 - 08:43 AM.

[DocBach]

CENTURION CN9-A

[FrostCollar]

Doyle, on 26 February 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

Raven 4X - 1x LBX10 and 2x Medium Pulse

Ouch, the LB-X 10 Raven 4X? I've tried that configuration before, but you lose so much to put in a gun that's ultimately pretty mediocre.

[Yokaiko]

Light -3L, its cheese, but the chance of a -3L catching you in any other light is to great to justify any other light
Medium, Any Trebuchet, I mastered three variants last weekend
Heavy, Muppets, Fang, Flame, -1C -1N maybe a dash of -2X (I frigging love my -2X brawlaphract)
Assualts, Pretty Baby, D-DC, maybe a Stalker LRM boat.

Depends on the rules. The common thing with our 8 man teams when they start talking comp is "Ok I have to grab a beer, you guys tell me what I need to be in when I get back"

Oddly, our lance leaders are fine with that.

[EmCeeMendez]

Pick the Mech that can do damage above its weight class.

Raven 3L: 400-500 a match
Centurion 9A: 500-700 a match
Catapult A1 OR Cataphract 3D: 500-700 a match
Stalker F OR Atlas DDC: 500-700 a match

All damage numbers are in PUG drops, so they'll be significantly lower in a tourney. If all the players get 300 damage though, the enemy team is dead.

You wouldn't pick Commandos, Cicadas, Dragons or Awesomes because they're the hardest to get solid damage with, and the first to die due to less armor than their contemporaries.

Edited by EmCeeMendez, 26 February 2013 - 08:50 AM.

[Yokaiko]

Lindonius, on 21 February 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

Surely it's Raven 3L, Hunch 4SP, Splatcat, DDC.

Anything a -4SP can do a -3C can do better, the lack of once energy hardpoint is more than made up for by going 120kph.

[Elessar]

As your question was specifically about a choice among the Mechs we own it would be:
Assault: AS7-D-DC
Medium: CN9-A
Light: COM-2D

I don´t own a heavy one, but my choice would probably be one of the Catapults

Edited by Elessar, 26 February 2013 - 08:57 AM.

[Voridan Atreides]

I do not own a Jenner JR7-D, nor will I ever, or some variants of the Atlas (AS7-D-DC, AS7-RS). If I was forced to choose a light I would choose the Jenner JR7-D. I will evenutally be buying those two Atlas variants so I figured I would put them in there as well.

Light Category:

Jenner JR7-D with four Medium Lasers, and two SSRM Launchers with two tons of SSRM ammo, and four Jump Jets.

Medium Category:

Centurion CN9-A with one AC/10 with two tons of AC/10 ammo, three SSRM Launchers with one ton of SSRM ammo, and two Medium Lasers.

Trebuchet TBT-7M with two LRM10 Launchers with four tons of LRM ammo, TAG, two Medium Lasers, and one SSRM Launcher with one ton of SSRM ammo, and five Jump Jets.

Centurion CN9-AL with three Medium Lasers, one Large Laser, one LRM10 Launcher, and one LRM5 Launcher with four tons of LRM ammo.

Trebuchet TBT-7M with one PPC, two SSRM Launchers with one ton of SSRM ammo, one SRM6 Launcher with one ton of SRM ammo, two Medium Lasers, and four Jump Jets.

Heavy Category:

Cataphract CTF-2X with one AC/10 with two tons of AC/10 ammo, two SRM6s with two tons of SRM ammo, one PPC, and two Medium Lasers.

Assault Category:

Atlas AS7-D with one AC/20 with three tons of AC/20 ammo, two Artemis SRM6s with two tons of Artemis SRM ammo, four Medium Lasers, and one AMS with one ton of AMS ammo.

Atlas AS7-D-DC with one AC/20 with four tons of AC/20 ammo, three Artemis SRM6s with two tons of Artemis SRM ammo, Guardian ECM, and two Large Lasers.

Atlas AS7-RS with one AC/20 and three tons of AC/20 ammo, two Large Lasers, one LRM20 Launcher, and one LRM5 Launcher with four tons of LRM ammo.

Captain Mech:

Atlas AS7-D-DC with one AC/20 with four tons of AC/20 ammo, three Artemis SRM6s with two tons of Artemis SRM ammo, Guardian ECM, and two Large Lasers.

Edited by Voridan Atreides, 26 February 2013 - 09:16 AM.