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Poll: do catapults need a nerf (207 member(s) have cast votes)

should all catapults need a nerf/reduction somewhere

  1. yes (19 votes [9.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.18%

  2. no (182 votes [87.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 87.92%

  3. not too sure i'll explain in a post what's good and bad (6 votes [2.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.90%

okay so it's the k-2 that needs a nerf?

  1. yes (21 votes [10.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.14%

  2. no (178 votes [85.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.99%

  3. not too sure i'll explain in a post what's good and bad (8 votes [3.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.86%

alright so it's all about the a1 huh THAT one needs a nerf

  1. yes (45 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  2. no (151 votes [72.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.95%

  3. not too sure i'll explain in a post what's good and bad (11 votes [5.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.31%

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#41 Franchi

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:22 PM

View PostTraining Instructor, on 26 February 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:


Uhm, played all the way through master and two of my elite skills on my K2 using nothing but 4xPPC, and this was before they adjusted the heat on ppc builds to make them the latest fashion.

The 2xGauss k2 never suited me. I tried the 2xAC20, but it was extremely slow and competent pilots were able to mostly avoid me. It sure was fun for tunnel and cave rushes though.

So did I and as a person who has masrered the K2 twice (never ran ballistics on it), and who ground out his first owned mech (a K2) using it as a trial mech in closed beta I can tell you that the CTF-3d is better for every build in every way except the AC20 or gauss.

Edited by Franchi, 26 February 2013 - 10:23 PM.


#42 Goldhawk

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostFranchi, on 26 February 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

I want you to do something for me, take a look at the CTF-3D, anything your nerfed K2 can do it can do better at the same speed, with JJ's and it will still run cooler

I would use the CTF-3D if it didn't have shoulders like Laurence Taylor. The CTF-3D has a WIDDDDE profile that for me is easy to bang on it's CT., heck, and EVERYbody knows... Oh, wait, y'all didn't know? Scribble this down. For those mostly autocannon varients that move "Extra" fast? Hit that rounded bump on their back that looks like fat rolls and watch him explode. The K2 has a slimmer profile and a larger torso twist speed, that is perfect with dueling with lighter machines.

#43 Commander Kobold

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostKassatsu, on 26 February 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:


Exactly, the A1s and K2s are rarely an issue because they have such intense tunnel vision once they've spotted a target.


sucks when you're the target and theres not much you can do about it though :/

#44 NocturnalBeast

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

No, No, No! I do not even pilot Catapults and I say No. Stop with all this "nerf this, nerf that." Damn, just because you can't kill K-2s they need to be nerfed? Lame qq thread.

#45 Commander Kobold

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

View PostMalora Sidewinder, on 26 February 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

poll results have spoken

face it very few people care what the polls say.

#46 Franchi

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostGoldhawk, on 26 February 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

I would use the CTF-3D if it didn't have shoulders like Laurence Taylor. The CTF-3D has a WIDDDDE profile that for me is easy to bang on it's CT., heck, and EVERYbody knows... Oh, wait, y'all didn't know? Scribble this down. For those mostly autocannon varients that move "Extra" fast? Hit that rounded bump on their back that looks like fat rolls and watch him explode. The K2 has a slimmer profile and a larger torso twist speed, that is perfect with dueling with lighter machines.

Yes it has a bad hit box, but its cooler, and has JJ's that MORE than compensates if you know how to use JJ's on a sniper.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:28 PM

View PostFranchi, on 26 February 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

So did I and as a person who has masrered the K2 twice (never ran ballistics on it), and who ground out his first owned mech (a K2) using it as a trial mech in closed beta I can tell you that the CTF-3d is better for every build in every way except the AC20 or gauss.


kitty twists better and isn't as wide a target, also U think (not sure on this bit) kitty can move faster

#48 jubbly

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:28 PM

Lock this stupidity so the OP can make another poll about cat nerfs the next day.

#49 Franchi

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:31 PM

View PostOmni 13, on 26 February 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:


kitty twists better and isn't as wide a target, also U think (not sure on this bit) kitty can move faster

Actually 3D is .1 faster at speed cap than the cat, not that it maters. yes it has a terrible hit box, but ill take the JJ's over the better hit box every day and twice on a tourney weekend.

#50 roguetrdr

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

This is the second poll you've started with exactly the same questions and answers. I understand u mad but seriously do you need to keep spamming the forums with this crap? Personally I think you would be much better off putting all this energy into working around the big bad catapult problem you've been having by using, oh I don't know, skill and tactics?

#51 Franchi

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

View Postroguetrdr, on 26 February 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

This is the second poll you've started with exactly the same questions and answers. I understand u mad but seriously do you need to keep spamming the forums with this crap? Personally I think you would be much better off putting all this energy into working around the big bad catapult problem you've been having by using, oh I don't know, skill and tactics?

OP makes the polls to laugh at all the QQers.

#52 Mystere

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:36 PM

I have nothing else to say except:

Adapt. Overcome. Prevail.



and:

Practice makes perfect.



and finally:

If I can create a reliable counter, then the balance is acceptable.



View PostOmni 13, on 26 February 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

sucks when you're the target and theres not much you can do about it though :/


Then don't get caught with your pants down. :)

#53 Petrothian Tong

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:44 PM

look ma, I am posting in the 2737474744 Cat-whine thread~!

*seriously, of all things to whine about, Cats still? even with maps and modules that pick ppl off at 1km?


ECM birds are more evil.

#54 lsp

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

I don't really have an issue with pults. If I was going to make a issue about it, I would argue that the k2 shouldn't be able to mount GR or ac20's in it's machinegun slots. And the torso twist is better then most brawler's which is pretty ridiculous. Considering the role the pult iis originally designed for.

#55 urmamasllama

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:26 PM

boating on theA1 isn't even all that good 2xSSRM2 2xSRM6AIV 2xLRM15AIV is my build and i do so much better not even ecm poses a big problem unless i go against an all ecm 4man but thats just indicative of a serious issue. i would take going against four splatcats over three raven 3Ls and a DDC any day

Edited by urmamasllama, 26 February 2013 - 11:26 PM.


#56 DegeneratePervert

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

Polls are useless. Everyone who said "no, the A1 is fine" (or whatever) is delusional. Yes, I get it, you're some sort of mech-god and can pop both ears off in SECONDS with PERFECT ACCURACY, even if they come within 50m of you.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

View PostDegeneratePervert, on 26 February 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Polls are useless. Everyone who said "no, the A1 is fine" (or whatever) is delusional. Yes, I get it, you're some sort of mech-god and can pop both ears off in SECONDS with PERFECT ACCURACY, even if they come within 50m of you.


must be a lot of mech gods around then.

#58 Mazzyplz

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:44 PM

View PostOmni 13, on 26 February 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

face it very few people care what the polls say.


the polls reflect what people care about quite faithfully.
it's a sample of the people who voted.
and the vote results are in; i don't have my glasses on would you read them out loud to me?

#59 Mystere

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:45 PM

View PostGalaxyBluestar, on 26 February 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

must be a lot of mech gods around then.


Mech gods? THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:01 AM

Either read and then remove my thread from this list, as you clearly never read it at all, and are therefore completely ignorant of its actual topic, or be reported for "name and shame" thread.





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