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#1 Heffay

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

Oh, that's right. We're still testing them.



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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

No its clan tech and thus in the future and on the way

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

View PostTombstoner, on 28 February 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

No its clan tech and thus in the future and on the way


Clans? I'm sure they are working on their own. However, if we can get it to work without blowing up our mechs, it'll be a huge revenue source for our merc corp.

Gotta think big picture. There's c-bills to be made!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:06 PM

Please, please, please, please.....I want one so bad.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:13 PM

Every time i start thinking that the Clans can somehow be balanced against IS someone brings up the UAC/20 or SSRM6 and I wonder what the hell I was thinking.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:14 PM

IS versions aren't developed/retroengineered until 3060. You have a whole decade to wait.

Clan UAC20s will be insane.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:14 PM

Don't field tests generally take place in the field?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostDavers, on 28 February 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Every time i start thinking that the Clans can somehow be balanced against IS someone brings up the UAC/20 or SSRM6 and I wonder what the hell I was thinking.

Don't forget CLRM20s.


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View PostRoughneck45, on 28 February 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

I don't think they will be balanced at all.

All the clan stuff is going to be better than the innersphere, and it will cost an absurd amount of c-bills to aquire it.

My guess anyway.

Might as well just delete IS tech then. The only people who wouldn't go straight to Clan tech would be hardcore role players and total newbies (as if their trial mechs don't get obliterated hard enough as it is). Plus, can you imagine our current "cheese" builds with Clan gear shoved in them? I'm already salivating over a Clan Raven 3L.

Edited by FupDup, 28 February 2013 - 02:19 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostDavers, on 28 February 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Every time i start thinking that the Clans can somehow be balanced against IS someone brings up the UAC/20 or SSRM6 and I wonder what the hell I was thinking.

I don't think they will be balanced at all.

All the clan stuff is going to be better than the innersphere, and it will cost an absurd amount of c-bills to aquire it. What will be interesting is just how much better they will be, and what the cost is.

My guess anyway.

Edited by Roughneck45, 28 February 2013 - 02:16 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

View PostRedshift2k5, on 28 February 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Clan UAC20s will be insane.


:angry: Yes.

#11 Lord Ikka

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

View PostHeffay, on 28 February 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Oh, that's right. We're still testing them.




This is why you don't trust Merc's R&D...

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:19 PM

See the first problem here is you are testing the uac20 on wrong mech. Dragons can't equip AC20's in general unless you are using Flame. So at least use the right mech capable of equipping a regular AC20 before testing the UAC version.

And let's try to salvage a clan UAC20 first to see how they got it to work.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:19 PM

View PostDavers, on 28 February 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Every time i start thinking that the Clans can somehow be balanced against IS someone brings up the UAC/20 or SSRM6 and I wonder what the hell I was thinking.


Haha it's gonna be pretty ridic. I do not envy the ppl trying to balance that stuff.

(Although here's how I'd do the UAC/20: like the AC/20, but heavier. Same fire rate, double tap to fire a second shot during cooldown with a high chance of jamming. I'd actually do all the UACs like that. I like my pair of UAC/5s but they're probably not balanced.)

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM

View PostRoughneck45, on 28 February 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

I don't think they will be balanced at all.

All the clan stuff is going to be better than the innersphere, and it will cost an absurd amount of c-bills to aquire it. What will be interesting is just how much better they will be, and what the cost is.

My guess anyway.

Then what is to stop everyone from jumping ship over to the Clans when they become playable factions? It can't be Cbill cost. That leads right to P2W.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM

View PostLord Ikka, on 28 February 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

This is why you don't trust Merc's R&D...


We have production ones ready for sale, for only 18,000,000 each. 10% less explody than this one.

Slightly charred. We assure you it's strictly cosmetic.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM

View PostDavers, on 28 February 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Every time i start thinking that the Clans can somehow be balanced against IS someone brings up the UAC/20 or SSRM6 and I wonder what the hell I was thinking.

The clans were never meant to be balanced. They were meant to be outnumbered though, due to their "honor". They had a thing about seeing how many IS mechs they could take out with fewer clan mechs. So they would intentionally allow themselves to be outnumbered to prove their muster.

Which honestly could make for an interesting game mode if you think about it. Clan vs. IS with 2:1 odds in numbers or some such.

Edited by AnarchyBurger, 28 February 2013 - 02:22 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM

View PostRoyalewithcheese, on 28 February 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Haha it's gonna be pretty ridic. I do not envy the ppl trying to balance that stuff.


They have the hardest job in the world.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

View PostDavers, on 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

Then what is to stop everyone from jumping ship over to the Clans when they become playable factions? It can't be Cbill cost. That leads right to P2W.

Cbill cost wouldn't really be P2W so much as pay-to-not-get-eradicated-while-you-grind-for-cash. I do agree that Cbills alone is a bad idea for trying to implement Clan tech, though.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

View PostAnarchyBurger, on 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

The clans were never meant to be balanced. They were meant to be outnumbered though, due to their "honor". They had a thing about seeing how many IS mechs they could take out with fewer clan mechs. So they would intentionally allow themselves to be outnumbered to prove their muster.


I don't think MWO works like that.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:22 PM

View PostHeffay, on 28 February 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:


We have production ones ready for sale, for only 18,000,000 each. 10% less explody than this one.

Slightly charred. We assure you it's strictly cosmetic.

Cosmetic... just like the weapon currently. :angry:





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