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[Teralitha]

What are peoples opinions about these 2 game questions?

Has the focus of the game lost its central goal of being a skill based game? or has it become about who brings the biggest alpha strike and the most ECM?

Do you consider all chassis varients competitively viable? or are only certain chassis considered competitively viable and/or overpowered...


http://mwomercs.com/...sebuild-galore/

Edited by Teralitha, 28 February 2013 - 06:41 PM.

[TwentyOne]

well a good team can beat a team with cheese, yes. But theoretically a team with 4 ravens and 4 splat cats would basically NEVER lose.

[dario03]

This is a hard question for any game. Yes a skilled team can beat a less skilled cheese team but if you get two teams of about equal skill and one runs all cheese and the other runs none then the odds are heavily in favor of the cheese team.

[Teralitha]

All theories aside, what do you think of MWO as it is currently.

[Teralitha]

Added another question to the poll.

[Az0r]

I think the team that has the better pilots, practice harder and uses up to date min/maxed configs will win. Cheese be damned.

[Eddrick]

It is still mostly skill based. But, big Alpha strikes seem to be the one thing everyone wants.

It would be nice if all Chassis were viable. But, I'm not sure that is possible. However, how viable a Chassis can be can very from person to person. It depends on playstyle and preferance. I have a Sniper attack style, I also like heavy armor and speed. I don't care much about DPS. I just need a lot of range and as much damage as I can pack into a single pull of the trigger.

Edited by Eddrick, 28 February 2013 - 06:44 PM.

[Vlad Ward]

Get thrown out of one thread? Make a second one on the same exact topic.

Real classy. Here's to hoping someone deletes this for spam.

[Teralitha]

Eddrick, on 28 February 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

It is still mostly skill based. But, big Alpha strikes seem to be the one thing everyone wants.

It would be nice if all Chassis were viable. But, I'm not sure that is possible. However, how viable a Chassis can be can very from person to person. It depends on playstyle and preferance. I have a Sniper attack style, I also like heavy armor and speed. I don't care much about DPS. I just need a lot of range and as much damage as I can pack into a single pull of the trigger.

Does ECM have an effect on your role? And in what way....

Vlad Ward, on 28 February 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Get thrown out of one thread? Make a second one on the same exact topic.

Real classy. Here's to hoping someone deletes this for spam.

Yes, your post is spam. This is a poll. Its not just about *your* opinion. The other topic, wasnt a poll. Dont troll.

[Captain Midnight]

Teralitha, on 28 February 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

What are peoples opinions about these 2 game questions?

Has the focus of the game lost its central goal of being a skill based game? or has it become about who brings the biggest alpha strike and the most ECM?

Do you consider all chassis varients competitively viable? or are only certain chassis considered competitively viable and/or overpowered...


http://mwomercs.com/...sebuild-galore/

I like how the biggest, most accurate alphastrike is somehow cheesy and not skillful. Did you cry about the AWP in Counter Strike, because it was a noob gun, but couldn't pick double doors in de_dust2 if your life depended on it?

[Chrithu]

It's about Skill. Yes. No.

CDA-3C is a not viable chassis in any case. Others might be debatable. Some are redundant like the JR7-K but still viable.

And allthough there are many borderline builds any of them is worthless in unskilled hand which is proven ingame on a daily basis. The flipside fo that coind of course is that in skilled hands those builds can be real beasts. But that goes for just about any build in a viable chassis.

[Eddrick]

Teralitha, on 28 February 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Does ECM have an effect on your role? And in what way....

Nope. I can and will even shot at them beyond lock range. I don't need a lock. I just need to see them with my eyes. I also don't need radar. I scan the area with my eyes like I do in other First Person Shooter games.

Edited by Eddrick, 28 February 2013 - 06:54 PM.

[Vlad Ward]

Teralitha, on 28 February 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

Yes, your post is spam. This is a poll. Its not just about *your* opinion. The other topic, wasnt a poll. Dont troll.

Rephrasing the topic of a post in the form of a question doesn't make it distinct. You may as well have called the two "Cheese is OP" and "Is Cheese OP? Poll inside!"

Ironically, in that order.

Edited by Vlad Ward, 28 February 2013 - 06:54 PM.

[Teralitha]

Eddrick, on 28 February 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

Nope. I can and will even shot at them beyond lock range. I don't need a lock. I just need to see them with my eyes.

So an ecm mech, with brawler friends using cover has never *surprised* you and killed you in 3 seconds? Or an ECM raven find you lurking in the back row and harrassed you and killed you? I would find that impossible to believe if not.

Edited by Teralitha, 28 February 2013 - 06:57 PM.

[Ghogiel]

TwentyOne, on 28 February 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

well a good team can beat a team with cheese, yes. But theoretically a team with 4 ravens and 4 splat cats would basically NEVER lose.

Confirmed.

This is THE formula for 100% win rate in 8man. All the best teams will verify this result.

[Vlad Ward]

Ghogiel, on 28 February 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Confirmed.

This is THE formula for 100% win rate in 8man. All the best teams will verify this result.

Made my day.

[Eddrick]

Teralitha, on 28 February 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

So an ecm mech, with brawler friends using cover has never *surprised* you and killed you in 3 seconds? Or an ECM raven find you lurking in the back row and harrassed you and killed you? I would find that impossible to believe if not.

If they do manage to get in brawler range. They would have been able to do that without ECM. It would be my own fault for not looking around enough, missing to many shots, or just being out numberered.

[Captain Midnight]

Unless you run 8 assaults, stand in a line with no cover and politely trade blows with the enemy you are a cheesy noob. Also, if you bring anything besides machine guns or flamers your alpha strike will be cheesy and OP and you are a noob. -Teralitha

[MangoBogadog]

At present we sometimes take raven 3L and sometimes Jenners to the RHoD NA league. So far we have won 5 lost 3. The 3 we lost in we took Raven 3L. All matches we have taken Jenners for lights we have won. The choice is often dependant on the pilots available, and our preference (ie our best pilots available) is to take Jenners.

ECM is not everything. Tactics, practice and skill make up far more of the sum.

As far as making all variants competition viable I think that's pretty hard as things always change and some variants are just worse. why would anyone take a hbk 4j over a 4sp?

[Psikez]

Hey I remember this thread from about 3 hours ago, 4/10 got tricked into reading it again

Edit: Throwing a poll on it doesn't make it a different thread. Its the same thread with a bad poll on top.

Edited by Psikez, 28 February 2013 - 07:10 PM.