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[Geadron Kane]

200 tonnes of Afk is worse than ECM imo. Lrm assault cheeze builds that k/s from the mechs on the front line actually taking the risk is second.

Current team scoring promotes some poor behavior.

[Lyrik]

[REDACTED]

Choosing your map or mech would just enable more cheese. Forest with Splatcats and Caustic with LRM and Gaussnipers.

Edited by Viterbi, 02 March 2013 - 02:32 PM.
removed directed comment

[Vellinious]

Schranz, on 02 March 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

i aggree and id rather run away crying then sit behind my pc frustrated, its a game it is supposed to be fun, i dont need a one button win mode i just want my lasers to hit where i aim client side, choose the maps i want to play, and use any mech that doesnt have ECM without gimping myself.. what other firstperson multiplayer game doesnt let you choose the map,.. or has no lobby,..i liked the game better when ECM was not in it sure LRM frustrated me sometimes but then i took a good look at myself and said hmm maybe just maybe running out in an open plain would not a a verry strategic way of going about things,..

But in its current state the way lights are so OP,..its just boring,. i dont think theres anywhere in any lore ever that a raven circle lolled an Atlas,.. ever

I run lights, mediums and heavies....and I have no problem taking down lights. Sure, you get 3 or 4 ravens in a single group, it can be a real bummer for the opposing team, as will any 3 or 4 ECM equipped mechs.

Ahem...BETA. Buh bye now

[DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa]

Schranz, on 02 March 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

I used to love this game, i even bought some MC thank god i#m not a founder though. I gave this game a rest when the ECM module came out and hoped it was just FOTM and would be countered by yet to be seen tech.

So i visit the forum today to see if changes where made and guess what even after a few months,.. nothing..

I would like to see unique logins before and after the "brilliant" implementation of the godmode device, i can't believe i'm the only one that feels like this. I really wants to love this game even if that love was solely based on the lore and the stompy robot aspect. But the devs make it so hard for us to just play the game we want to play.

ECM is by far my biggest problem and although i always hated nightmaps i could live with the irritation of a horrible green hud level every once in a while.

Please fix ECM so that it has a valid counter or i fear it will be 4 on 4 soon,.. And why do people say if you can choose the maps then people will not play some,..well hello,..maybe its because those maps suck. See it as natural selection ****** maps get no love and the devs will know wich ones get played more and make bigger and better versions of those.

I dont get paid to play this game so the game must be the reward in itsself and in its current state its nowhere near fun for me anymore.


I'm probably speaking to 'dev ears' again but hey so be it,.. i'll uninstall this piece of ECM terror and see if it still isnt changed in a few months


Bye for now

ECM isn't a big deal.

The matchmaking has made games harder to win than ECM has.

[KharnZor]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 March 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Maybe if you were around, or at the very least caught up with whats bee updated. You will see something about ppc and ecm and the other ways to counter ecm. Its not god mode, you just lack the imagination to see past your rage and actually learn the counters to ecm.

Go play a game where you dont have to think and all you need to do is mesh buttons and have a crappy aim.

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[von Pilsner]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 March 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Maybe if you were around, or at the very least caught up with whats bee updated. You will see something about ppc and ecm and the other ways to counter ecm. Its not god mode, you just lack the imagination to see past your rage and actually learn the counters to ecm.

Of course the real counter to ECM is more ECM.

[KharnZor]

von Pilsner, on 02 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Of course the real counter to ECM is more ECM.

Nope.

[Greyfyl]

Broceratops, on 02 March 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

its hard to balance a game around ragequitters

Says the guy willing to play almost non-stop for a whole weekend just to get a little banner in his virtual cockpit.

[Ranek Blackstone]

von Pilsner, on 02 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

Of course the real counter to ECM is more ECM.

Or direct fire weapons. ECM doesn't jam my lasers!

[von Pilsner]

KharnZor, on 02 March 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Nope.

Very nice argument...

[Fiachdubh]

Oh dear God another one. My biggest fear for the game is that in a moment of weakness the Devs might actually start pandering to these people.

Edited by Fiachdubh, 02 March 2013 - 01:58 PM.

[Schranz]

Its basicly whoever has more ECM has the biggest win chance, dont you think something is broken when teh only thing that can stop it is another one of these same things,..this is like a game of rock,rock rock or paper paper paper and it is in my humble opinion boring to me to either be gimped with laserpointers that have huge lag problems or to have to play a fotm ECM piece of crap,.. And if ECM isnt op why not let every mech have it then maybe at least we see more chasis types?

I hate it that i can't even see where my team is in river city when i get ECM swarmed by ravens and the likes,.. if they want their precious ECM so bad limit it to assault mechs at least you can get out of the bubble and it makes pugs stay together.

But nevermind close your eyes and ignore the growing complaints and soon there will be no more whining players,..

and you will cry because matchmaking will take 4 years

Ranek Blackstone, on 02 March 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Or direct fire weapons. ECM doesn't jam my lasers!

no lag does that for 0 tons

[KharnZor]

von Pilsner, on 02 March 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Very nice argument...

Ikr? lol

[Vellinious]

Schranz, on 02 March 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Its basicly whoever has more ECM has the biggest win chance, dont you think something is broken when teh only thing that can stop it is another one of these same things,..this is like a game of rock,rock rock or paper paper paper and it is in my humble opinion boring to me to either be gimped with laserpointers that have huge lag problems or to have to play a fotm ECM piece of crap,.. And if ECM isnt op why not let every mech have it then maybe at least we see more chasis types?

I hate it that i can't even see where my team is in river city when i get ECM swarmed by ravens and the likes,.. if they want their precious ECM so bad limit it to assault mechs at least you can get out of the bubble and it makes pugs stay together.

But nevermind close your eyes and ignore the growing complaints and soon there will be no more whining players,..

and you will cry because matchmaking will take 4 years




no lag does that for 0 tons

What ECM module weighs 0 tons? For that matter, lag is caused by ping rates, as near as I can tell. Play some in US prime time, and see for yourself. Light mechs aren't hard to kill if both of your ping rates are less than 100.

And no....the team with the most ECM does not have the biggest change to win. It just has the biggest chance to give LRM boats a hard time. The group I play with, have completely wiped out using LRM's when we drop in an 8 man, taking instead, direct fire weapons, which take ECM completely out of the picture.

Maybe if you wiped the tears from your eyes, you could see this too. = )

Edited by Vellinious, 02 March 2013 - 02:36 PM.

[Icebergdx]

Schranz, on 02 March 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

I used to love this game, i even bought some MC thank god i#m not a founder though. I gave this game a rest when the ECM module came out and hoped it was just FOTM and would be countered by yet to be seen tech.

So i visit the forum today to see if changes where made and guess what even after a few months,.. nothing..

I would like to see unique logins before and after the "brilliant" implementation of the godmode device, i can't believe i'm the only one that feels like this. I really wants to love this game even if that love was solely based on the lore and the stompy robot aspect. But the devs make it so hard for us to just play the game we want to play.

ECM is by far my biggest problem and although i always hated nightmaps i could live with the irritation of a horrible green hud level every once in a while.

Please fix ECM so that it has a valid counter or i fear it will be 4 on 4 soon,.. And why do people say if you can choose the maps then people will not play some,..well hello,..maybe its because those maps suck. See it as natural selection ****** maps get no love and the devs will know wich ones get played more and make bigger and better versions of those.

I dont get paid to play this game so the game must be the reward in itsself and in its current state its nowhere near fun for me anymore.


I'm probably speaking to 'dev ears' again but hey so be it,.. i'll uninstall this piece of ECM terror and see if it still isnt changed in a few months


Bye for now

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

(Stompy feet sounds)


Maybe if you actually tried to learn how to deal with the issues instead of being another whining, entitled b****, you would see that you can beat ECM, it just takes hard work, sound tactics, and teamwork. Frankly, leave, and don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split ya, we don't need your kind here...

[Shismar]

If ECM was anything as powerful as often claimed, everyone would only drive mechs using it. Fact is, I am happy to even see one ECM mech on my team in most drops. If not, chances are the opponent hast 3+ LRM boats that make my life miserable.

But hey, quitting is a great solution too. It's really cool and will sure make the game better!

[hammerreborn]

Schranz, on 02 March 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Its basicly whoever has more ECM has the biggest win chance, dont you think something is broken when teh only thing that can stop it is another one of these same things,..this is like a game of rock,rock rock or paper paper paper and it is in my humble opinion boring to me to either be gimped with laserpointers that have huge lag problems or to have to play a fotm ECM piece of crap,.. And if ECM isnt op why not let every mech have it then maybe at least we see more chasis types?

I hate it that i can't even see where my team is in river city when i get ECM swarmed by ravens and the likes,.. if they want their precious ECM so bad limit it to assault mechs at least you can get out of the bubble and it makes pugs stay together.

But nevermind close your eyes and ignore the growing complaints and soon there will be no more whining players,..

and you will cry because matchmaking will take 4 years




no lag does that for 0 tons

My data is a little old (pre-elo) but having DCs, no premade, more awesomes, cicadas, or spiders were larger indicators of failure than having less ECM, and by a lot.

The main thing is that more ECM means a higher likelihood of premades which against most opponents would almost always win.

People keep touting this **** about having 4 ravens on the other team like that 4 man team wouldn't have base capped/killed them as easily as in nearly every other combination of mechs.

[Stone Profit]

Schranz, on 02 March 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

I used to love this game, i even bought some MC thank god i#m not a founder though. I gave this game a rest when the ECM module came out and hoped it was just FOTM and would be countered by yet to be seen tech.

So i visit the forum today to see if changes where made and guess what even after a few months,.. nothing..

I would like to see unique logins before and after the "brilliant" implementation of the godmode device, i can't believe i'm the only one that feels like this. I really wants to love this game even if that love was solely based on the lore and the stompy robot aspect. But the devs make it so hard for us to just play the game we want to play.

ECM is by far my biggest problem and although i always hated nightmaps i could live with the irritation of a horrible green hud level every once in a while.

Please fix ECM so that it has a valid counter or i fear it will be 4 on 4 soon,.. And why do people say if you can choose the maps then people will not play some,..well hello,..maybe its because those maps suck. See it as natural selection ****** maps get no love and the devs will know wich ones get played more and make bigger and better versions of those.

I dont get paid to play this game so the game must be the reward in itsself and in its current state its nowhere near fun for me anymore.


I'm probably speaking to 'dev ears' again but hey so be it,.. i'll uninstall this piece of ECM terror and see if it still isnt changed in a few months


Bye for now

Goodbye. Can I have your stuff?
Oh yeah, Thanks for all the Fish.

[Nostram]

Galathon Redd, on 02 March 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

Just when you thought it was safe to visit the Forum...

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