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[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

I bought a Woodland single use camo spec for 75 MCs for a mech a little while ago. So, I'm having a play around in Mechlab since and decide to swap it back to default for a change. Yep, no problem there...but then I try to apply Woodland back to the same mech and the game wants to change me another 75 MCs. Please tell me this is a bug? I've paid money for this. It should be sitting there for that mech and that mech alone. Isn't that what single use is? I mean, the full unlock is 750 MCs, but I only want it on 1 variant. What gives?

Anyway, I've raised this with support but wanted to see how many others have run into this problem. Pls comment. If this is intended it will be the last time I put any more cash into this game.

[Cest7]

Single use means you use it once. A single use. You change it and that single use is now used up, or gone. The 750MC purchase unlocks it for all variants for infinite uses.

Edited by Cest7, 03 March 2013 - 04:43 AM.

[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

Can you pls provide a link to where "Single Use" is explained?

[Xenroth]

There is no real reference where you have the word "single use" explained, but as it's logical, single use means, you use it once, and if you change the camo to something else its gone

[Cest7]

single adjective, verb
1. only one in number; one only; unique; sole: a single example.
2. solitary or sole; lone: He was the single survivor.

use verb
1.to employ for some purpose; put into service; make use of: to use a knife.
2. to expend or consume in use: We have used the money provided.

Edited by Cest7, 03 March 2013 - 05:25 AM.

[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

Ok, so I interpret this to mean I can use it for a single mech, no?

I'll wait for a formal response from PGI. Since this is a Beta I can understand if there are some problems in interpretation, but there should be none where money exchanges hands.

EDIT: Here's the relevant thread but I think the language is vague. It says "Single use applications are permanent until a change is made by the player." What it should say is that single use camos are NOT permanent and are lost if changed out at any time: http://mwomercs.com/...o-spec-phase-2/

Edited by Brown Hornet, 03 March 2013 - 06:27 AM.

[Inveramsay]

It can't honestly be a surprise that a single use camo is well, single use.

[Tesunie]

Single use is single, one time use. Once applied it can't be taken off with out losing the item.

Single use cammo is if you only want to unlock it once for a single mech and never intend to change it. It is a way PGI is trying to help players save some money in the game and still get what they want.

Sorry it wasn't obvious to you when you changed it, but it isn't PGI's fault. Don't blame them. Not to mention 75 MC really isn't that big a loss...

[Snib]

Brown Hornet, on 03 March 2013 - 06:11 AM, said:

Here's the relevant thread but I think the language is vague. It says "Single use applications are permanent until a change is made by the player." What it should say is that single use camos are NOT permanent and are lost if changed out at any time: http://mwomercs.com/...o-spec-phase-2/

Really? You see a difference there? Are you a native speaker?

[senaiboy]

There's no need to be rude to OP, people make mistakes.

It's understandable how it can be confused, I had initially thought the "single use" was for a single mech because the more expensive unlock is for use on all mechs.

However I guess "single use" actually mean single use literally, so I doubt PGI is at any fault here.

[Cold Fire]

senaiboy, on 03 March 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

There's no need to be rude to OP, people make mistakes.

It's understandable how it can be confused, I had initially thought the "single use" was for a single mech because the more expensive unlock is for use on all mechs.

However I guess "single use" actually mean single use literally, so I doubt PGI is at any fault here.

In addition to what you indicated, all the mechs in the game have at most 5 variants. At 75 MC a piece, there would need to be at least 10 for it to be cost effective to buy the 750 MC unlock for all variants. Most mechs don't even have this many variants in canon, let alone being developed for the game, so it makes sense to me that it's not permemant when you buy it for 75 MC. If the single use were permement, they'd have to change the cost at least 250 each for the chasis-wide unlock to make sense to buy.

[EvangelionUnit]

Brown Hornet, on 03 March 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

I bought a Woodland single use camo spec for 75 MCs for a mech a little while ago. So, I'm having a play around in Mechlab since and decide to swap it back to default for a change. Yep, no problem there...but then I try to apply Woodland back to the same mech and the game wants to change me another 75 MCs. Please tell me this is a bug? I've paid money for this. It should be sitting there for that mech and that mech alone. Isn't that what single use is? I mean, the full unlock is 750 MCs, but I only want it on 1 variant. What gives?

Anyway, I've raised this with support but wanted to see how many others have run into this problem. Pls comment. If this is intended it will be the last time I put any more cash into this game.

good that i just paint all my standard mechs basic red then ...

[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

Appreciate everyone's thoughts on this. The issue I have is that there is NO description when u purchase the upgrade in game. I've paid money for something in good faith and now have nothing to show for it after experimenting in mechlab. I can't believe how some of u don't appreciate the ethics behind this concept. I have a simple solution though. I won't put any more cash into this game. It's Beta and F2P. Really, who stands to win?

Edited by Brown Hornet, 03 March 2013 - 04:13 PM.

[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

Snib, on 03 March 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

Really? You see a difference there? Are you a native speaker?

There is a difference. English is a complex language. I can understand if you don't see it. Perhaps native speakers do. Is that what you mean? You sound racist, so I've reported your post.

Since you like to quote definitions, try this one:

per·ma·nent
1.
existing perpetually; everlasting, especially without significant change.
2.
intended to exist or function for a long, indefinite period without regard to unforeseeable conditions: a permanent employee; the permanent headquarters of the United Nations.
3.
long-lasting or nonfading: permanent pleating; permanent ink.

Edited by Brown Hornet, 03 March 2013 - 04:36 PM.

[Snib]

Brown Hornet, on 03 March 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

There is a difference. English is a complex language. I can understand if you don't see it. Perhaps native speakers do. Is that what you mean? You sound racist, so I've reported your post.

Since you like to quote definitions, try this one:

Ok, you don't understand single use, and asking about your language background so I understand why you don't understand is racism to you. Also I have not quoted a single definition, I have quoted your post, good sir.

With that level of impaired reading comprehension/logical thinking I will unfortunately not be able to help you. Good luck in life.

[BR0WN_H0RN3T]

I received an explanation of what "single use" is according to the developer, however, they have a policy which refuses refunds when mistakes are made, so pls be wary of that. Apparently mistakes can only be made at the purchaser's end.

I find the following example interesting though. Is it a mistake or intended? You be the judge.

In game, the term "unlock" is used to describe the other option when purchasing camo specs. Of course, use of the word "unlock" (in this context) is not to be confused with the term "unlocked," which is currently reserved for colours. Apparently unlocked colours apply to all your mechs but "unlocked" camo specs appear to only unlock 1 mech type (e.g. Atlas, all variants). So, it appears that French-Canadian english IS different to English english. Who knew?

Edited by Brown Hornet, 05 March 2013 - 03:22 AM.

[Liquidx]

Brown Hornet, on 05 March 2013 - 03:20 AM, said:

So, it appears that French-Canadian english IS different to English english. Who knew?

Is that why all french must be bigger font size than english in quebec? Maybe if they were equal this confusion would not occur.

Bottom line is, the definition is single use, and the forum says it is permanent until you make a change.
In the end it only cost you 75mc, which is a pretty miniscule amount of real money, less than a cup of coffee. If that is all it costs you to learn this lesson, then be grateful.