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#21 Bfvmg

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

OMG We are doomed. P2W is here to stay, and this signals the END of MWO, and the end of the WORLD!


Seriously. Jumping. To. Conclusions. Here.

You have to buy frikin WEAPONS with Cbills in this game. I just spent over 2mil on ERPPC for God's sake.
Purchasing modules with Cbills AND/OR MCs, without any more information, is not that big a deal....

Calm Down, take a deep breath, and wait for it!

And PLEASE Everyone, stop ascribing motivations with no information. Thats called conjecture, rumors, or just plain old "bad mouthing"

#22 deadeye mcduck

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

Typical knee-jerk reaction of this community. Lets see how thses new additions play out before jumping to conclusions. Besdies there are more positives, like the testing grounds, which has been asked for by the community.

This community is self defeatist, and arrogant towards the developers.

#23 LordBraxton

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:19 PM

View PostBfvmg, on 04 March 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

OMG We are doomed. P2W is here to stay, and this signals the END of MWO, and the end of the WORLD!


Seriously. Jumping. To. Conclusions. Here.

You have to buy frikin WEAPONS with Cbills in this game. I just spent over 2mil on ERPPC for God's sake.
Purchasing modules with Cbills AND/OR MCs, without any more information, is not that big a deal....

Calm Down, take a deep breath, and wait for it!

And PLEASE Everyone, stop ascribing motivations with no information. Thats called conjecture, rumors, or just plain old "bad mouthing"


remember repair and rearm?

why did they remove that? because you had to pay for your PPC every match if you lost it.

which gives premium players an advantage

and ammo was consumable, and gave premium players an advantage.

consuuuummmabbllleeee

View Postdeadeye mcduck, on 04 March 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

Typical knee-jerk reaction of this community. Lets see how thses new additions play out before jumping to conclusions. Besdies there are more positives, like the testing grounds, which has been asked for by the community.

This community is self defeatist, and arrogant towards the developers.


its a face off of chicken little vs the blind fanboy.

however in this case the chicken littles are on the right track

#24 Royalewithcheese

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they realize that R&R was a bad idea that created bad incentives? So what, exactly, makes anyone think that the implementation of consumables will be the same bad idea with the same bad incentives?

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 04 March 2013 - 12:21 PM.


#25 Vasces Diablo

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:26 PM

View PostLordBraxton, on 04 March 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Just because you can buy them with Cbill means nothing.

They are bringing back the exact same problems repair and rearm created

To remain fully competitive you will be purchasing consumables with MC or cbills.

This puts Premium accounts at a huge advantage even if the Cbill price is reasonable.

PAY TO WIN END OF STORY

(I have premium and spare MC and I still dont like this)


You can use MC to buy premium time, resulting in more Cbills, that can be used to buy consumables. Is that Pay to Win?

#26 deadeye mcduck

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:28 PM

No wonder devs dont read forums, your all doom mongers that want this game to fail. If it does, we got no one else to blame but the community.

#27 DeathofSelf

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

the forums are pay to win

#28 Novakaine

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:33 PM

Well put ya money where your missle is.

#29 Bfvmg

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:38 PM

View PostLordBraxton, on 04 March 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

remember repair and rearm?
why did they remove that? because you had to pay for your PPC every match if you lost it.
which gives premium players an advantage
and ammo was consumable, and gave premium players an advantage.
consuuuummmabbllleeee

however in this case the chicken littles are on the right track


Jeesus H Cehrist. No One has an advantage, is that what you want? I dont have time to play 15 hours a day to build the necessary skills and/or Cbills to be competitive in this game. So, because I have a frikin job and a family with 4 kids, I suck because I spend a little money on this game that I love in order to be able to compete with everyone else?

Dude, someone is going to have an advantage. It called LIFE! Deal with it, and stop trying to bring everyone else down to your level. I have paid a LOT of money for MWO so far (like seriously over $1000), and trust me...it IS NOT PAY TO WIN!

Repeat after me. IT IS NOT PAY TO WIN! If it was, than I would have broken 76 overall on the hero Challenge last weekend!

#30 Lyrik

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:43 PM

View PostLordBraxton, on 04 March 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:


This puts Premium accounts at a huge advantage even if the Cbill price is reasonable



Premium accounts should have an advantage! Conveniance is overpowered ! I will hammer my oppenents so hard with my AirStrike bought by my shiny dollars. I will make PGI so rich that we will have 20 Clanmechs in no time.


Just kidding... I don't know if I should like these consumables. Too many grievers/idiots/******** with too much money out there. I really hope there won't be any "healpotions, Palabubbles" etc coming out. Even Coolant Flush is meh.

#31 Super Mono

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:45 PM

I'm going to enjoy having to purchase coolant flush for every match so I can keep up with everyone else buying coolant flush.

#32 Coralld

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:45 PM

This is kinda how is see people who over react to this sort of thing...

Person: "The enemy got his Atlas with MC and all I got is this dinky spider. Yes I know I can still get the Atlas by grinding C-Bills but I don't care, I'm going to the forums and QQ to the max."

Edited by Coralld, 04 March 2013 - 12:47 PM.


#33 Eric darkstar Marr

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:47 PM

Whats so mega about this thread?

All i read was whine whine qq qq why the sky is falling... WHY?!

#34 Havyek

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:51 PM

I think the first thing I'm going to do with my new Air and Artillery strikes is drop them on the spawn point at the start of the match if I get River City Night more than twice in a row.

#35 Orthodontist

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

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#36 Jestun

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:57 PM

Nothing in the OP implies that it will be P2W.

Speculation is just that, speculation.

#37 Livewyr

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

View PostLordBraxton, on 04 March 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Just because you can buy them with Cbill means nothing.

They are bringing back the exact same problems repair and rearm created

To remain fully competitive you will be purchasing consumables with MC or cbills.

This puts Premium accounts at a huge advantage even if the Cbill price is reasonable.

PAY TO WIN END OF STORY

(I have premium and spare MC and I still dont like this)


I can buy an Atlas in 1/1000000th the time of a free player. P2W?

#38 Magicbullet141

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 01:00 PM

until one can buy c-bills, its not pay to win

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

View Postcdlord, on 04 March 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Sounds like F2P to me. Cheers!


It is P2W - if I have cash to spare, I get more c-bills via buying premium time, therefore I can use those consumables all the time. Joe The Freeplayer who doesn't have cash to spare is unable to do so, can only use consumables in an emergency situation, and therefore has a definite disadvantage when fighting me.

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View PostMagicbullet141, on 04 March 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

until one can buy c-bills, its not pay to win


You already can - buy an Atlas with MC, sell it for c-bills. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Edited by IceSerpent, 04 March 2013 - 01:05 PM.


#40 Dredhawk

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

Like said in anther topic to day

I sure lose allot in these so called Pay to win games when I pay into them....I haven't found a Pay to win game yet my definition of pay to win is I pay and never lose at all that what I consider pay to win..Until I get gold ammo that never bonce and tank that never gets pen it's not Pay to win..

Edited by Dredhawk, 04 March 2013 - 01:04 PM.






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