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[Oni Ralas]

I seem to **** people up with my e-3lue just fine. Razor nostromo > any mouse you can come up with. Clicks? Aint nobody got time for that!

[Vahnn]

I had a Logitech mouse for about 4 years, and I honestly have no idea what it was called (it used the "Darkfield" laser technology, so you could use it on a glass surface), though it looks exactly like the Performance Mouse MX. Although I'm certain that's not what it was called when I bought it.

But I had it for 4 years, and it was a fantastic mouse... Wireless, never noticed any kind of latency issues, it tracked wonderfully (I have my PC set up on my coffee table and I play on my couch, using the entire couch cushion as a mousing surface). I dropped it from a height of 2+ feet countless hundreds of times, and it lasted almost 5 years (I ended up buying a new mouse because the RMB started sticking/registering dozens of clicks per second when I tried to "drag" objects.") It was also a large, relatively heavy mouse, with a large thumb pad and plenty of room for my pinky. I use the grip where my entire hand rests on the mouse, with my wrist/arm resting on the table. It was perfect for me.

I currently use a Razer Imperator, and it's tiny, waaaay to light, and the dual sensors (it uses an optical camera and a laser) make it very imprecise in my situation (mousing on a finely bristled couch cushion).

My next purchase is going to be a Steelseries Samuai Sensei. And if that fails, I'm going back to another Logitech Performance MX Wireless.

(Holy crap, how do you like those parentheses?)

EDIT: "Steelseries Samurai." lol

Edited by Vahnn, 05 March 2013 - 08:47 PM.

[urmamasllama]

logitech makes better mice for claw grip players razer makes better mice for palm grip. i had a rat 7 for a few months and absolutely despised the thing for one it gave me carpal tunnel and secondly the macros on it were quite dodgy. my absolute favorite would be the microsoft sidewinder unfortunately they're a discontinued item and are as such a bit hard to track down. i currently am using a razer hex and it's great although personally i think its a bit too light and wish could put some weights in it.

Edited by urmamasllama, 05 March 2013 - 05:28 PM.

[Dran]

I have a mamba and I love it, perfect size for my long fingers and how I hold my mice. i'd recommend that you hold the mouse in store before you buy so you can see if it its your style.

[MetalMutt]

MetalMutt, on 05 March 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

Well, only one thumb button is convenient for me to use with my grip. I have to reach for the other two, which just doesn't work for me in battle. I honestly didn't know you could map tilt left and right as buttons! I will try that and see how I like it.

I wasn't able to map the tilt left and right buttons in MWO. I have the latest driver installed, not sure why it's not working...it works fine in Windows.

Oh, and yes I do use the claw grip. Not sure if I could get used to the palm grip with a Razer.

[Signal27]

I personally own a Razer Hex, and it fit well in my medium-sized hand. But if you have gorilla hands, it's not the mouse for you. Also: It's designed for people who have their index finger on the left mouse button, and middle finger on the right mouse button. So if you're one of these strange kind of people who uses their middle finger for the middle mouse wheel/button and ring finger for the right mouse button, the ergonomics for the Razer are not designed for that and so it's going to fit in your hand badly.

But other than that, I actually have one big problem with the Razer Hex and it's why I don't use it anymore: It's too damned light. This is fine for pushing any of the top three buttons, but it's really not so cool when you're trying to use one of the many thumb buttons on the side - which is the primary selling point of the Razer Hex (and Naga). You push a thumb button and your entire mouse will move slightly to the right with it. Not a big deal in, say, MMORPGs. But it's a BIG deal in a game like MWO where you have to aim and keep a crosshair on a target.

So eventually I bought a Logitech G700. Two less buttons on the side for your thumbs, sure, but there are three more buttons within easy reach of the index finger, and the mouse wheel can register clicks to the left or right. Plus, it's got a little bit of weight to it. I don't mean it's heavy at all. It's got just enough weight to it (by virtue of having a rechargeable battery inside of it for the wireless operation) so that the problem I mentioned above doesn't happen whenever I click a thumb button.

Bottom line: If you like ultra-light ergonomic mice, go with the Razer Hex. Other than my personal issues with the Razer Hex, it's still a damn fine mouse if you can keep it under control despite its feather-weight. But if you can't, avoid it. I would recommend you find a friend who has one or go to a store where they have it on display, and just put your hand on it and get a feel for it. Click all the buttons and stuff.

Edited by Signal27, 05 March 2013 - 05:49 PM.

[The Cheese]

Logitech. My G9 is the best mouse I've ever had. Not as many buttons as the mice you've listed, but you really don't need that many.

[Valder]

They had the Razer Hex set up for the MWO tournament in San Jose and it was perfect for the game. Each button was large, and you had positive control on exactly what one you were pushing. And they all directly correlated to weapon groups.

And the green one is on sale on Amazon for $55.

When I get some disposable income to throw away, I'm planning on getting mine.

[ThinkTank]

I have the G600 and I have been really impressed with it for MWO. I have all the mech functions on the thumb buttons and the three buttons across the top are great for three weapons groups. I use the scroll wheel tilt to fire group 4 if needed. The braided cable is also an excellent features as I don't like wireless because they always seem to crap out at the worst possible time.

[MetalMutt]

I wish I had an electronics store that had Razers I could try. I suppose I could buy it from Best buy and just return it if I didn't like it.

Edited by MetalMutt, 05 March 2013 - 06:18 PM.

[urmamasllama]

MetalMutt, on 05 March 2013 - 06:18 PM, said:

I wish I had an electronics store that had Razers I could try. I suppose I could buy it from Best buy and just return it if I didn't like it.

see if fry's or microcenter have any stores near you

[Ashnod]

I really like the naga, but that's mainly because I enjoy how small it is.. And the massive amount of buttons and how it feels in my hand.

[FiveDigits]

BladeSplint, on 05 March 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

I'm using my imperator right now and I love it. Over a year old and still going strong. I'm not sure what you people are doing to your Razer mice to break them but I guess logitech is more childproof

It is not that they break. They are just too light and flimsy. I also wasn't satisfied with the sensors. For the supposed high DPI it felt quite skippy.

[Gandalfrockman]

Razers products are overpriced crap.
Logitechs arent really that great in the performance department.
BUY A STEELSERIES SENSEI
I wrote a big long post about how awesome they are somewhere around here.... Will edit it in If I can find it again.

Heres my big long testimonial...I swear I don't work for these guys they just make anamazing product and sell it for shockingly reasonable prices.

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I used to think razer made decent if somewhat overpriced products, then a friend of mine got me to try out his steelseries sensei..It is better than even razers high end stuff (I was using a mamba at the time) in pretty much every conceivable way.

http://steelseries.c...elseries-sensei

It isnt as flashy, but its built better, moves better, performs better, has a better easier to clean coating, the software is easy to use and integrates with the mouse at a firmware level (clever trick, so you just bring your mouse with you to any machine and you dont need to load any software, your setting are all in firmware the on the mouse) Basically, while the razer's products seemed like toys, the sensei feels like a precision tool. Its been great in photoshop and illustrator when I dont have my wacom handy too.

AS IF THAT WERENT ENOUGH...it costs about half as much as razers equivalent product.

I Liked razers product and it wasn't shoddy or anything, but honestly? Something that costs half as much completely devastates it. If they are supposedly producing something so high end, that just shouldn't happen. If Steelseries actually advertised for crap, I suspect they would force razer to adapt, but they seem perfectly happy to sit their quietly producing the best gotdanged mouse I have ever layed my hands on and not tell a blessed soul.

(Note: I don't work for or know anyone at steelseries or anything, also the sensei is pretty understated from the whole big black plastic monolith covered in garrish flashing lights Point of view. So I guess thats a win for Razer?)

Edited by Gandalfrockman, 05 March 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[CarnifexMaximus]

I have a Logitech G9. It is by far the fanciest mouse I have ever owned. It has 2 buttons on the side. I program MWO to have LMB as group 1, RMB as group 2 and the 2 buttons on the side as groups 3 and 4. I like having them there. However, I never put weapons that require any degree of precision to these 3 & 4 buttons/groups. It is difficult for me to keep steady aim while shifting my thumb to press these buttons.

They are great for SRMS, LRMS, close range energy weapons or dare I say... MG/Flamers/ "crit utility weapons"

The mouse is kinda old and beat up, by applying pressure to the side of the mouse I discovered that I "press" the group 3 button. I have been exploiting this a bit more.

[Taemien]

Go with the Logitech G600. I've had the Naga before and within 4 months it had a mechanical failure with the left mouse button. The buttons are angled differently as well so you don't need stickers that just come off after a day or two to tell where your thumb is resting.

Edited by Taemien, 05 March 2013 - 06:48 PM.

[RX 187]

SteelWarrior, on 05 March 2013 - 02:07 AM, said:

Cyborg. couldnt be happier with my RAT 7

at night time it transformers into a decepticon and runs amok my house.

Cyborg RAT 7 here too.
Couldn't be happier. Also had no problems with programming buttons and macros with the included software (although I don't have an optical drive so downloaded the latest version).
Coupled it with the Cyborg FLY 5 Flight Stick and MWO has never been as fun.

[DocBach]

Naga Hex was like, made for this game.

[FactorlanP]

I just bought a RAT7 and really really like it

[Krazy Kat]

If you don't see a display model for a razer, ask to see a box. The box opens up so you can put your hands on it.