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[Royalewithcheese]

It looks like you're having trouble not being killed by LRMs!

Have you tried:

• Not standing out in the open?
  
• Using an ECM bubble?
  
• Putting a building or hill between you and the LRMs?

[Mech Wrench]

Aphoticus, on 05 March 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

I shall not be lured by your boating, streaking, lrmers to find a challenge. I shall simple bring forth my UAC 5 spider and die with honor!

hey, i do well with that build!

[Kylere]

UrbatOrbi, on 05 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

so it is a game without skill again - i think 80% of ppl who can Play leave this game for weeks, come again, go for month, and then for ever.

this is no beta, it is: devs learn nothing from ppl who can Play.

gameplay again, go in a Atlas dc 50 lrm - fire 3-5 min and win...........normaly 4-7 kills - without skill

oh and i see many angry ppl, here in Forum all say the same.......then the answer from ppl with out skill: dont whine......it is a free game .....bla bla bla.....

must a game be easy to get more Money? - Look at WoW - they lose ppl because it is to easy - it is a prob of this game industrie in the Moment, they get more and more ppl angry and no Money.....

Look, using LRMS is only easy if your opponent is too stupid to be playing the game. Please go back to WoW if you think they are OP

[Nostram]

Royalewithcheese, on 05 March 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

It looks like you're having trouble not being killed by LRMs!

Have you tried:

• Not standing out in the open?
  
• Using an ECM bubble?
  
• Putting a building or hill between you and the LRMs?

You forgot suggesting they use the Awesome shield. Seriously... thank you awesome pilots, you make great shields =)

[deforce]

LRM gets 5-7 kills? the ppl getting hit by them are idiots then.

first cover.
2nd lights and snipers should be dropping that boat if he really is able to get damaging shots off.

[Roadkill]

Fut, on 05 March 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:

Hopefully the Devs see that "no one in competitive uses LRMs" and they continue to buff them until they are used.

My sarcasm detector is going off.

[Frostbeast]

I dont care about LRMs anymore. I care about Sniperwarrior Online. Everybody uses Sniperweapons. PPC with GAUSS. PPC with jumpjets or all together. boring boring boring.

[Padic]

As of last patch, anyway, I'm more afraid of my ally's LRMs than those of my opponents.

[Lefty Lucy]

"You just need to use cover" is a ridiculous argument because cover protects you from *all* weapon systems, not just LRMs. If LRMs are killing the target significantly faster at better range than a similar tonnage dedicated to non-LRM weapons, then that is a problem.

[Mercules]

The other day my friend and I took turns shooting an LRM boat Stalker. As soon as it was focused on him he would duck into cover and I would pew-pew it. As soon as it turned on me he popped out and shot it... with LRMs! It stood in the open hopelessly launching missiles at targets at max range while getting sniped and shot with LRMs in return. It was getting to the point I couldn't aim through the shaking of my head and muttering, "Why doesn't he move?"

Lefty Lucy, on 05 March 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

"You just need to use cover" is a ridiculous argument because cover protects you from *all* weapon systems, not just LRMs. If LRMs are killing the target significantly faster at better range than a similar tonnage dedicated to non-LRM weapons, then that is a problem.

They don't.... and cover is MORE effective against LRMs than any other weapon system because of their slow travel time. It's not like I can stand out in the open and take another pot shot at someone while waiting for a PPC shot to close the distance. You can literally move Cover to Cover against LRMs but you can't do that against other weapons systems.

[Dr B00t]

this is a great thread...laughing pretty hard right now...thanks poster...you made my day

[wolfmanjake]

Frostbeast, on 05 March 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I dont care about LRMs anymore. I care about Sniperwarrior Online. Everybody uses Sniperweapons. PPC with GAUSS. PPC with jumpjets or all together. boring boring boring.

Ya, I never see SRM Cats, AC20 Cats, UAC5 Cataphracts, brawler Atlases or ECM Ravens on the battle field. Just loads of PPC jump snipers.

Edited by wolfmanjake, 05 March 2013 - 02:20 PM.

[Peg Leg Pete]

UrbatOrbi, on 05 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

so it is a game without skill again - i think 80% of ppl who can Play leave this game for weeks, come again, go for month, and then for ever.

this is no beta, it is: devs learn nothing from ppl who can Play.

gameplay again, go in a Atlas dc 50 lrm - fire 3-5 min and win...........normaly 4-7 kills - without skill

oh and i see many angry ppl, here in Forum all say the same.......then the answer from ppl with out skill: dont whine......it is a free game .....bla bla bla.....

must a game be easy to get more Money? - Look at WoW - they lose ppl because it is to easy - it is a prob of this game industrie in the Moment, they get more and more ppl angry and no Money.....

ProTip: Complete, coherent thoughts and a lack of disdain for grammar goes a long way in making an argument.

[Glythe]

UrbatOrbi, on 05 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

gameplay again, go in a Atlas dc 50 lrm - fire 3-5 min and win...........normaly 4-7 kills - without skill

People usually have to suffer in some bad mechs to get the mechs that want to be optimized. Currently for me thats the Cicada. You should be enjoying those easy kills because they won't last. Sooner or later most people are going to be done grinding.

The LRM 50 Atlas is only good with a very good team to protect him. You can kill one quite easily with a 2D commando.

Frostbeast, on 05 March 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I dont care about LRMs anymore. I care about Sniperwarrior Online. Everybody uses Sniperweapons. PPC with GAUSS. PPC with jumpjets or all together. boring boring boring.

So true... PPC used to be a niche weapon. Powerful but had drawbacks. Now every game I take cover instead of moving into position. If it's 1-2 we might charge but if it's 3+ then we sit and camp. Snipers lose if they can't use long range..... and EVERY base except 1 in the game right now has a spot near a base that prevents sniping.

Edited by Glythe, 05 March 2013 - 04:11 PM.

[Gregore]

yep game is **** again.
Nothing but LRM's every map.

And before all the idiots who use LRM shout, l2p get to cover, use ecm.
You cannot get cover from all angles, and there is this thing called tag. L2P yourself.

Once my premium time runs out I think I will call it quits for a bit. Nothing more boring then standing behind a wall for 5-10 minutes because the second you step out you have 60+ lrms raining down.

[Josef Nader]

I can't remember the last time I actually died to LRM fire...

[Gregore]

Because you are a premade going pug stomping.

[Sheraf]

UrbatOrbi, on 05 March 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

so it is a game without skill again - i think 80% of ppl who can Play leave this game for weeks, come again, go for month, and then for ever.

this is no beta, it is: devs learn nothing from ppl who can Play.

gameplay again, go in a Atlas dc 50 lrm - fire 3-5 min and win...........normaly 4-7 kills - without skill

oh and i see many angry ppl, here in Forum all say the same.......then the answer from ppl with out skill: dont whine......it is a free game .....bla bla bla.....

must a game be easy to get more Money? - Look at WoW - they lose ppl because it is to easy - it is a prob of this game industrie in the Moment, they get more and more ppl angry and no Money.....

Killed those atlas most of the time. They think they have more LRM than me, while I have the cover

[Agent of Change]

It takes little skill to kill targets possessing little skill. If you think LRM's are a no skill weapon the problem may lay within your own cockpit..

[Mercules]

Gregore, on 05 March 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

yep game is **** again.
Nothing but LRM's every map.

And before all the idiots who use LRM shout, l2p get to cover, use ecm.
You cannot get cover from all angles, and there is this thing called tag. L2P yourself.

Once my premium time runs out I think I will call it quits for a bit. Nothing more boring then standing behind a wall for 5-10 minutes because the second you step out you have 60+ lrms raining down.

Here is what has happened. I know from experience in my group some of the people who did play fire support mechs or used LRMs as a softening up weapon as they moved toward the enemy literally stopped playing. When ECM was everywhere in PUGs and everybody was playing RVN-3Ls and AS7-D-DCs my friends stopped playing. Now I think those people are returning.

My friend didn't like that his style of play was severely curtailed. An ECM light could avoid his LRMs and RVN-3Ls were almost impossible to kill with his 4 lasers at the time. So he was getting swarmed and frustrated. I convinced him to return and played a spotter for him. He has since put a TAG on his own mech as well and is now a bit more mobile and sticks closer to the group. In other words he learned to adapt.

People are learning how to utilize a potent but not overly powerful weapon system again. You do need to adapt to those people being out there again and adapting their strategies to become useful again. LRMs are not overpowered and have a LOT of drawbacks. You can't wade out into the middle of the water in a D-DC with ECM and assume you are immune to them anymore. I'll light you up with TAG and the rain will come.

Gregore, on 07 March 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

Because you are a premade going pug stomping.

This excuse is getting old. Not everyone who beats you is a premade. Not everyone who has success in this game is a premade. I PUG a lot and I don't get wiped out by LRMs on a regular basis(every now and then I get stupid or unlucky). You don't have to be in a premade to utilize of counter LRMs.