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#1 Bullet Magnet

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

I have an alienware M11x laptop, and everything but my CPU well exceeds the minimum requirements to play the Crysis games, as least judging from the results at canyourunit.com.

While the M11x can have an i7 processor, I believe I only have an i3, at only 1.3 GHZ.

I also have:

4.0 gb RAM

Nvidia GeForce GT 335m

46.4 gb free disk space

Windows 7 premium

Is that small of a processor going to be an issue?

Edited by Bullet Magnet, 29 May 2012 - 09:42 PM.


#2 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 09:47 PM

View PostBullet Magnet, on 29 May 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

I have an alienware M11x laptop, and everything but my CPU well exceeds the minimum requirements to play the Crysis games, as least judging from the results at canyourunit.com.

While the M11x can have an i7 processor, I believe I only have an i3, at only 1.3 GHZ.

I also have:

4.0 gb RAM

Nvidia GeForce GT 335m

46.4 gb free disk space

Windows 7 premium

Is that small of a processor going to be an issue?

not at all. Games aren't heavily CPU oriented anymore, it's mostly on the GPU.

#3 RusWolf

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:19 PM

Check the laptop on the game Crysis 2

#4 hellrais3r

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:22 PM

View PostVulpesveritas, on 29 May 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

not at all. Games aren't heavily CPU oriented anymore, it's mostly on the GPU.

some games are oriented on CPU - just remember GTA4. It's depends of game engine.
But CE3 mostly on GPU, so you shouldn't worry about your game experience

#5 Irish79

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:43 PM

It's also worth noting that a lot of GPU's on laptops are low power models that do suffer from extreme heat when under high load. I dont how the alienware gear from dell rates against a desktop GPU but I can provide an example from my own experience where a Dell Precision studio with a graphics card that on the box looks just as good as desktop GPU of similiar ratings got pushed hard and it slowed down dramatically while the desktop unit kept punching hard. On top of that the old solution of turning down your resolution only works with a laptop if your using an external screen and your laptop doesn't mind having it's lid closed while running hard.

http://www.notebookc...5M.24060.0.html

#6 moerker

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:59 PM

Generally put. Strategy games with big maps and lots of units murder CPU's. Best example is probably Supreme commander on 24x24km map and 8 players.

FPS games tend to be more on GPU / Memory.

Then there are games that use bit of everything including HD. Like RPG games with lots of new area loading. Like Dragon Age.

#7 Bullet Magnet

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:34 AM

View PostIrish79, on 29 May 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

It's also worth noting that a lot of GPU's on laptops are low power models that do suffer from extreme heat when under high load. I dont how the alienware gear from dell rates against a desktop GPU but I can provide an example from my own experience where a Dell Precision studio with a graphics card that on the box looks just as good as desktop GPU of similiar ratings got pushed hard and it slowed down dramatically while the desktop unit kept punching hard. On top of that the old solution of turning down your resolution only works with a laptop if your using an external screen and your laptop doesn't mind having it's lid closed while running hard.

http://www.notebookc...5M.24060.0.html



My laptop runs very cool, even when I'm running intensive programs or games, I believe that's one of the selling points of the M11x, it's very heat effecient. It's supposed to be designed to be overclockable as well, but I've heard of some BSOD issues all over tech forums, so I don't know how accurate that is.

I also have it hooked up to an external monitor, I basically treat it as a desktop when playing games.

#8 Thorqemada

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 01:09 AM

I found that usually MMOs tend to need much RAM (4GB or more) and a powerfull CPU (~3000 MHz x 4 or more) for smooth gaming.
MWO is not a traditional Big-Scale-MMO so i guess moderate CPU Power will drive it well.
But they also gave interviews that they go for cutting edge technology so maybe its higher.
Physics should scale well with CPU-cores for example.
Best to wait until you can test it - a computer is ordered in a few minutes if needed.

For Laptops the GPU is usually a weak spot too.

PS: I have read the Nvidia 335m does not support Directx 11

Edited by Thorqemada, 30 May 2012 - 02:54 AM.


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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:22 AM

The 335M isn't so bad, as it can handle some things. The only bottlenecks beyond that are the CPU and laptop hard drive, but overall you should be able to at least play the game, it's just you might have to play on mid to lower settings. Your RAM won't matter as much unless it's shared for the 335M.

Edited by cipher, 30 May 2012 - 05:23 AM.


#10 Adridos

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 05:26 AM

Depends on the game. You always need decent components, but in strategy games, only thing you need above average is the CPU (at least in the real ones, not when you have to command 3 units total), in games like Crysis, you need both good CPU and GPU, but in a game like Crysis 2, you need a little better GPU and CPU shouldn't be an issue. ;)

#11 Nasty9

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 07:55 AM

Your CPU should also support turbo, so as long as all of the cores aren't fully loaded it will be able to ramp the clock speed of a single core to somewhere around 1.5GHz.

#12 Bullet Magnet

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:16 PM

View PostNasty9, on 30 May 2012 - 07:55 AM, said:

Your CPU should also support turbo, so as long as all of the cores aren't fully loaded it will be able to ramp the clock speed of a single core to somewhere around 1.5GHz.


How exactly would I go about doing this?

#13 Remorce

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:24 PM

Not all of intel's CPUs support turbo.

#14 Xiee

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:38 PM

I'm a little concerned about having this game on my laptop. Especially knowing that this game runs on the Crysis engine. I just hope it can run it on medium settings. I've got an I-Core 3 for its processor and a Nvidia GT520M as its video card.

#15 Aethon

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:32 AM

All three CryEngines are actually rather CPU-intensive; I'm presently running a Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 stock) at about 3.9, and a pair of GTX580's in SLI. My CPU isn't the latest and greatest thing out there (at the moment), but it still isn't terrible, and it's the major bottleneck when I'm playing MWLL or Crysis 2. I can even deactivate one card, overclock the other, and still end up with the CPU holding me back on those two games, for the most part. The only time the second card seems to help me in CryEngine games is when I'm in a situation that taxes the video memory, or is heavy on physics, since I have the second card prioritized for that.

So, yeah...I'm actually keeping my 580's, and upgrading the CPU very soon, to relieve that bottleneck.

#16 Vulpesveritas

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:19 AM

View PostAethon, on 31 May 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

All three CryEngines are actually rather CPU-intensive; I'm presently running a Phenom II X4 970 (3.5 stock) at about 3.9, and a pair of GTX580's in SLI. My CPU isn't the latest and greatest thing out there (at the moment), but it still isn't terrible, and it's the major bottleneck when I'm playing MWLL or Crysis 2. I can even deactivate one card, overclock the other, and still end up with the CPU holding me back on those two games, for the most part. The only time the second card seems to help me in CryEngine games is when I'm in a situation that taxes the video memory, or is heavy on physics, since I have the second card prioritized for that.

So, yeah...I'm actually keeping my 580's, and upgrading the CPU very soon, to relieve that bottleneck.

The reason is CryENGINE 2 is only capable of using two threads, so half your CPU isn't being used for the game. CryENGINE can use up to eight, and crysis 2 is well 4threaded, and DX11 reduces the CPU load.

#17 Nasty9

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:15 AM

View PostBullet Magnet, on 30 May 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:


How exactly would I go about doing this?


If your CPU supports it, it happens automatically. Do you know the model number of your CPU?

#18 Bullet Magnet

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:36 AM

View PostNasty9, on 31 May 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:


If your CPU supports it, it happens automatically. Do you know the model number of your CPU?


U7300

#19 Nasty9

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:31 PM

View PostBullet Magnet, on 31 May 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:


U7300

Your CPU doesn't support turbo. What games do you play on it now, and how does it run?

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 02:54 AM

i got

CPU:

intel® Celeron® CPU 900 2.20GHz

RAM:

2GB

VIDEO card:

Mobile intel® 4 Series EXpress chipset Family


it just below the requiemens for crysis 2 T_T

is it possible to upgrade your "systems?"

not really a gamer "laptop"

Edited by mrwtfdk, 04 June 2012 - 02:54 AM.






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