31 replies to this topic

[Tabrias07]

Capping sucks, in assault or conquest.

Are we ever getting TDM?

[Thedrelle]

ask this in the ask the devs section

[Seanamal]

Assault is TDM, capping just provides an alternate win scenario so last guy can't wait out the clock.

[VonRunnegen]

Hmmm.... take spider, find deep water, power down.

[Tabrias07]

Seanamal, on 13 March 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Assault is TDM, capping just provides an alternate win scenario so last guy can't wait out the clock.

I'd pay $120 to make that true.

[Teralitha]

The devs have said... Yes, TDM is in the future.

[Kaspirikay]

im waiting for solaris

[jay35]

Seanamal, on 13 March 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Assault is TDM, capping just provides an alternate win scenario so last guy can't wait out the clock.

They already do that to avoid the Death on their stats, so it hasn't prevented that.

[Radko]

Seanamal, on 13 March 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Assault is TDM, capping just provides an alternate win scenario so last guy can't wait out the clock.

Except 3+ mechs can cap a base too quickly for a team to turn around, trudge back across the map, and fight them, so that's not true at all.


Anyway, here's how I'd solve that issue in TDM: If there's only one guy left, and they're at a tonnage disadvantage (so you don't see a pair of lights fleeing an Atlas), and they haven't done any damage over the last, let's say, 90 seconds, the other team wins.

Edited by Radko, 13 March 2013 - 09:31 AM.

[xRatas]

I hope not.

If we get it, have fun hunting me in TDM if I'm last one alive. I *will* find a place to hide and waste everyone's time.

Edited by xRatas, 13 March 2013 - 09:52 AM.

[Hawkwings]

Even better, run a team of 8 spiders and spread out and power down in all the inaccessible places in the map.

I guarantee it will happen. To you.

[Grraarrgghh]

Did Kong all sign like a blood pact saying that they were only going to post whiny, dumb ideas from now on?

It's ******* twilight zone in here compared to 3 months ago.

[xRatas]

Radko, on 13 March 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Except 3+ mechs can cap a base too quickly for a team to turn around, trudge back across the map, and fight them, so that's not true at all.


Anyway, here's how I'd solve that issue in TDM: If there's only one guy left, and they're at a tonnage disadvantage (so you don't see a pair of lights fleeing an Atlas), and they haven't done any damage over the last, let's say, 90 seconds, the other team wins.

Tonnage disadvantage as a tiebreaker in this game is just bad idea. The main idea is to offer every class a meaningful role in game. If atlas always wins if opponent doesn't come fight it on it's terms, it is just really bad design. We already have enough fat-lasses in every game, no need for more.

I do agree, capping is too fast with several mechs. IMO it should be limited to 2 cappers most. More than that should not give any bonuses, and it would make more sense to make deep defence around cappers then.

Edited by xRatas, 13 March 2013 - 10:13 AM.

[AC]

Tabrias07, on 13 March 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Capping sucks, in assault or conquest.

Are we ever getting TDM?

Capping sucks because there is no reward for it in Conquest. They made a game type that is suppose to revolve around capping, and then they don't reward capping. huh what?

[jay35]

xRatas, on 13 March 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

I hope not.

If we get it, have fun hunting me in TDM if I'm last one alive. I *will* find a place to hide and waste everyone's time.

Most games solve idiocy like that, and like what Hawkwings described, by including a VoteKick option. Just saying.

As far as Conquest, yes it has backwards rewards: You actually get higher rewards for killing all the enemies than you do for winning by points. Assault is also backwards, iirc, if you get more points for capping the base point than for defeating the enemy team.

Edited by jay35, 13 March 2013 - 10:18 AM.

[xRatas]

jay35, on 13 March 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

They already do that to avoid the Death on their stats, so it hasn't prevented that.

Yes, but you don't have to find the last guy, you can just go cap. Take that away, and it might get boring real fast. And I promise I do my best to make it boring, as I'd say TDM is just plain stupid gamemode, unless it is in really limited space, i.e. Solaris arena.

[Bubba Wilkins]

Tabrias07, on 13 March 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Capping sucks, in assault or conquest.

Are we ever getting TDM?

Capping sucks because it means your enemy was smarter than you.

Maybe you (and your team mates) should learn to scout better and not over extend.

[Fooooo]

AC, on 13 March 2013 - 10:13 AM, said:

Capping sucks because there is no reward for it in Conquest. They made a game type that is suppose to revolve around capping, and then they don't reward capping. huh what?

You get a c-bill reward for the amount of resources total you have at end of the match.

So yes, capping IS rewarded....just making a cap point yours is not.



Also im fairly sure the way to make the most money is on conquest.

Kill 7 mechs, then cap to 750....(instead of just capping to 750 asap), however that isn't always possible.



If your sick of people capping your base. Then don't leave the base ?

The enemy will come to you if your getting capped so often.

Edited by Fooooo, 13 March 2013 - 10:27 AM.

[Alex Warden]

Tabrias07, on 13 March 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Are we ever getting TDM?

are we ever getting something different?

[Slashmckill]

I am not for or against this idea as team death match is a staple game mode and i'd like to see more than just the norm, HOWEVER to all of those that said they would not like it, might i suggest not playing it since... you know, you are able to pick what mode you want to play. (Seriously just choose not to play it, i hate conquest so i simply choose Assault in the menu... not hard)

One of the things this game does need at the moment is game modes, love them or hate them more is better.

Edited by Slashmckill, 13 March 2013 - 10:36 AM.