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[Iacov]

hey there!

now that i finished my bachelor thesis and want to reward myself by buying a vulture miniature (either playing-miniature and/or museum scale, but either way i would order via ralparthaeurope.co.uk) and everything i need to paint it

i live in austria, so i might not get the same things, that get recommended on the internet, that would only be availble at walmart etc

i'm looking for an easy way to buy everything i need to paint the miniatures
therefore, i would even consider buying Citadel stuff - in this case i do not necessarily care about the price...i care about quality (so if you say, citadel is garbage i'd be happy to get advice what to get else and where i get it in austria/germany/via amazon.de )

first off, what super glue should i use?
would something like this be enough to glue the museum scale or the normale miniature?

if i buy playing miniatues - what bases do you recommend? plastic or metal?

what would you recommend to prepare the miniature for priming? i once read toothbrush+white vinegar ... is that advisable?

and what primer would you recommend for use with metal miniatures?
and what color for priming? i want to paint them green and brown (like the repaint in my signature) - should i prime them green, grey, (citadel) white or (citadel) black?

what brushes do i need? if you look at these, which ones would you recommend for the 2cm and a 7cm figurine
and how do i clean them? water? terpentine?
what colors should i use? would the citadel colors be okay?
would it be advisable to get a citadel starter kit like this?
or should i rather buy the "special" colors, offered via ral partha europe? (and would they "work" with a citadel spray primer?)

i thank you very very much!

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Hallo iacov

Citadel Farben sind ok, nutze die selber

hier findest Du tutorials zum Figuren bemalen

http://archiv.planet...ewtopic&t=11683

[Iacov]

danke dir!

und benützt du auch den citadel sprühgrundierer?
und du bemalst damit die "klassischen" metallfiguren?
welchen kleber benützt du?

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thank you!

and do you also use the citadel spray primer?
do you paint "classic" metal miniatures with it?
what brand/type of adhesive/glue do you use?


and i think i have decided to go for the museum scale model only and do a diorama (like i already did for some of my dark age miniatures)
but this time, i'll use model railroad accesoires (like trees and grasses etc)
but i don't know the right scale yet...the vulture is 3 inches (so around 7,5 cm) and trees i've found are 6cm at a 1:120 scale...don't know if this is the correct scale

does anyone have experience, besides painting miniatures, with building a diorama for them?

[Ashnod]

I like reaper paints, make sure to get files and xacto knives and a good light. And I either use white grey or black as a primer, depending on if I want the paint scheme to be dark, bright or in between.

also a magnification headset is legit

Edited by Ashnod, 08 March 2013 - 12:29 AM.

[dal10]

miniatures, and paint.

^couldn't resist

[Samophlange]

Ah...I haven't painted mechs in a loooong time....

Ahsnod's tip about the xacto is great. Scrape down any of those casting lines, as they can ruin a nice paint job.

I've never bothered cleaning a mini before painting. If the primer is any good, it should stick without all that additional hassle. Out of the hundreds (thousands?) of minis I've done, primer not sticking was an issue maybe once or twice.
Generally, I use a white primer for everything. Even a dark color scheme. The subtleties of darker shades can get trashed by black primer, and any lighter secondary colors get masked or tinted in odd ways. Red or yellow over black can be rough. I'd rather put two nice light coats of a darker color on white primer instead of the reverse.

That being said, with mechs in particular, I have also done a black primer coat and drybrushed the entire mech in layers. It let me get a worn look and some interesting "airbrushed" camo patterns. It will let the cracks and plates stand out.

Back in the day I used Ral Partha for everything (and the occasional Armory color). Have you looked into Vallejo paints? They are in eye droppers, which can be a pain. But, the upside is, they coat well and have a cool range of colors.

As for supplies...
- Ral Partha, Citadel and Vallejo are all acryllics. The citadel primers are all fine for acryllics. I've used them all. they are all fine paints. The Ral Partha used to be the most questionable ones. Some were like water and others like pudding. Most were somewhere in between.

- They clean up with water. Yay! (Not the primer though. Spray on in very light coats...)

- Brushes: The Citadel basecoat, fine detail, detail, standard and the small drybrush and md. drybrush are a great start. I'd get a second set of dry brushes and another detail brush too.
Art store "0" and "00" brushes are great for that too.

-I use a regular super glue gel for most things. For metal mins, it can crack over time. The cyanoacrylate(sp?) glue for plastic can be tricky. It melts the plastic together. Or...if you use too much, trashes the mini. Yay!

Hope some of that was useful. If you have any questions, just ask.
(Having owned a gaming store helped me pick up a few bits of info....)

[RagingOyster]

Paint and miniatures... duh?

Edit: oh yeah and brushes I guess if you do not want to finger paint them

Edited by RagingOyster, 08 March 2013 - 12:40 PM.

[dal10]

RagingOyster, on 08 March 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

Paint and miniatures... duh?

Edit: oh yeah and brushes I guess if you do not want to finger paint them

copycat.

[DarkDevilDancer]

A can of black undercoat spray if your paint scheme is dark, white if light.

One large brush for applying the base coat.

One medium brush for finer detail and one fine detail brush for finishing touches.

I play 40k aswell so i have citadel paints i use which work fine, i use a combination of drybrushing and inking on my models.

[shuboy]

Make sure your minis are clean before priming. Just wash and dry the mini. A speck of dust or dirt may ruin a good paint job.

For assembling the mini, superglue is fine but I prefer a two component metal epoxy. To hold the limbs while the epoxy cures, I use non stick putty to hold them in place.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Thats a good idea, superglue works but it can be a right ****** sometimes refusing to stick for ages forcing you to hold the miniature for ages.

[Iacov]

i'm going on a paint shopping spree today...
still don't know what brushes to get, though
a brush set for 50€ from citadel is a bit expensive in my opinion...

and what do you recommend me, regarding the primer?
should i go for white or black?

[Atlas3060]

Black Primer is good if you want a darker paint scheme overall, the opposite for white.
I tend to use grey or brown, the latter mostly if I know that some alpine or forest camo will go on that mini.

[AdamBaines]

Go to CamoSpecs.com. They have awesome tutorials and tips there from amazing artists on everything you need, and need to do when painting mini and Museum scale.

[MechFrog1]

Learning dry brushing made my mechs look a lot better. It pays to watch/look up tutorials made by experts.

[Stormwolf]

You can find tons of info here:

http://www.camospecs.com/Article.asp

[Dreadnought13]

I recommend Vallejo paints, amazing quality, high pigment acrylics.

Brushes NEED to be natural hair, preferably Kolinsky Sable (Winsor Newton series 7 size 0 is my main workhorse, with a 000 for tiny details [ie pupils])

If you use metallic paints, be sure to use a separate jar for rinsing brushes so the glitter doesn't show up in your other colors.

for glue, if working with plastic, Revell Contacta Professional is great and much easier to get where you are than here in the US. If working with metal, I recommend learning how to pin your figures, and using cyanoacrylate glues, which are sold under a variety of names like Loctite here.

Primer, I use vallejo through my airbrush, but I also use automotive primer in a spraycan sometimes. White is my default for bright colors, black for dark/metallics.

there are a lot of GREAT videos online, my favorites being

Awesome Paintjob
http://www.youtube.c...awesomepaintjob

and Buy Painted
http://www.youtube.com/user/Buypainted

Edited by Dreadnought13, 23 March 2013 - 12:32 PM.

[Dreadnought13]

If you want to build landscapes, I recommend http://www.terragenesis.co.uk tons of tutorials there.

Edited by Dreadnought13, 23 March 2013 - 12:35 PM.

[Rahjan Tyrian]

grummel warum zeigts mir das Bild nicht an ...

Also wir im Verein fahren sehr gut mit Citadelfarben

kann dir gerne mal bilder zumailen wenn du Intresse hast

Edited by Rahjan Tyrian, 23 March 2013 - 01:00 PM.