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[Havok1978]

One of Little Harmony, on 07 March 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

In literally almost any Mech I'm in, as soon as the Raven-3L comes by I am dead about 5 seconds later and might land oh, one or two shots.

Adjust your rear torso armor. that is all.

[Stingz]

Torso shots and L.Lasers/L.Pulse. The legs on the Raven are sticks, torso is built like the Stalker.

[Flapdrol]

Most reliable way to kill a raven 3L is using another 3L, stay with your own team and he might eat a volley of LRM, making you win the fight.

[Koniving]

Step on it. Note the awarded component destruction as I turn to face him.



But seriously I'll start recording kills on Raven 3-Ls. They're not that hard to get rid of.

Edited by Koniving, 10 March 2013 - 07:38 AM.

[Logi]

depends on equipped weapon:
Gauss, PPC, AC20 and SRM : try to lead and hit the torso (in my wang i hit 2 out of 3 shots with AC20)
LBX10 : try to lead and hit the torso
(Pulse) Lasors: go for their legs. it´s funny to see how ravens try to run, as soon as they realize you are going to leg them
don´t forget to aim THE WHOLE TIME at them. I have seen enough players who shoout with a laser at a light mech and don´t keep the aim during the beam duration.

[Murku]

State rewind has made all the difference to me, running at about 120ping an a vintage 20-35FPS PC.

Unlevelled Stalker 5S, single HS, 280std w 2LL/ 4 SL (plus streaks I couldn't use due to ECM), beat up at end of battle and all alone. Let him do 2 passes as he circled, crossing my static aimed beams and he lost a leg from fresh. And I'm no epic shot (80% accuracy range). Craven fear has ended.

[DarkBazerker]

I prefer srm6s but lasers work to if you can lead the target.

Edited by DarkBazerker, 10 March 2013 - 08:20 AM.

[SixstringSamurai]

You kill a Raven by shooting them. That usually helps.

[JediPanther]

The most effective way I know is to make it the universal target. The more teammates you have against it the better. I normally try and leg ravens as aiming for the torso doesn't do much. Once one leg is gone the bird moves at half speed which is its only advantage against all non srm caring mechs. I've ran dual lbx on my hk4g as a light destroyer and it is fun.

[Arnold Carns]

Don't go alone. If it comes to a one-on-one situation vs. a 3L, you'll be most likely toast, regardless of what class of 'Mech you drive. The only incidents when I got killed driving a 3L was when my victim was having some pals nearby. That didn't mean that he doesn't went down, but in that cases he didn't go down alone.

[Pater Mors]

Arnold Carns, on 10 March 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

Don't go alone. If it comes to a one-on-one situation vs. a 3L, you'll be most likely toast, regardless of what class of 'Mech you drive. The only incidents when I got killed driving a 3L was when my victim was having some pals nearby. That didn't mean that he doesn't went down, but in that cases he didn't go down alone.

Disagree. I took down two 3L's on separate maps last night with nothing but 4MLs on my Treb while isolated away from my team. Granted I took a lot of damage, but it's not as hard as it used to be.

[Arnold Carns]

Pater Mors, on 10 March 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Disagree. I took down two 3L's on separate maps last night with nothing but 4MLs on my Treb while isolated away from my team. Granted I took a lot of damage, but it's not as hard as it used to be.

Then you're either an above-average pilot or have been above-average lucky or they were below-average Raven 3L pilots (commonly refered as "noobs"). I'm only average, but until tody I sacked every loner I met driving a 3L, be it Treb, Hunchie, Cat, Atlas or anything else. Even other single Raven 3L's. My KD in a Raven 3L is 5.0 and increasing, in any other 'Mech it's around 1.5. Which means that I'm not that good, it's only cuz ECM is that broken.

[Koniving]

Another way to kill a Raven. Go afk on a roof top until one comes to you all alone.

Afk Spider versus Raven 3-L. Spider WINS!

Edited by Koniving, 13 March 2013 - 09:46 AM.

[Murfph]

over ride shut down at 99% and alpha strike until satisfied..

[Koniving]

Shoot it with a cannon in a store-bought rig with no changes!

This was earlier this morning while recording footage to take clips from for a series of mine.

The Hunchback used is a pure factory default HBK 4H with no modifications other than paint job. Not even ammo was relocated. Standard heat sinks. Etc. First prey is a Raven 3-L. Killed by ballistic.

Edited by Koniving, 13 March 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[Raven IIC]

I have to put up with 3Ls all the time. My suggestion, just work on your light mech piloting skills and drive a 3L also (at least until it or ECM gets more balanced). Just fight smart and fight dirty if it gets to it.

[Sedant]

Aim for the legs, they are weak as hell. Leg shot = head shot= gg

[Gihzmo]

Arnold Carns, on 10 March 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

Don't go alone. If it comes to a one-on-one situation vs. a 3L, you'll be most likely toast, regardless of what class of 'Mech you drive. The only incidents when I got killed driving a 3L was when my victim was having some pals nearby. That didn't mean that he doesn't went down, but in that cases he didn't go down alone.

Is this not a problem?? I do not understand how people are OK with a LIGHT mech being perfectly capable of taking down a medium while taking no damage. I understand an assault simply because of speed and maneuvering. The fact that a light mech can easily take down any mech while being under fire from 2+ other mechs and get away nearly unscathed is insane.

You can say that it is player skill, you can say you need to aim better. The fact is, I can take out any other light mech easily with any weapon loadout. The only time I have a hard time is when I am in something big and slow. But against a raven 3L, the same shot that would strip the armor off the back of an atlas does nothing to it.

[CmdrPoopyPants]

Gihzmo, on 11 March 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

You can say that it is player skill, you can say you need to aim better. The fact is, I can take out any other light mech easily with any weapon loadout. The only time I have a hard time is when I am in something big and slow. But against a raven 3L, the same shot that would strip the armor off the back of an atlas does nothing to it.

I think there's something wrong with the HSR code, to be honest.. They did "something" to make laser shots work better (they say), but there is still a huge problem with SRMs and ballistics I believe. I've hit lights (not just ravens) full on with SRMs and done almost no damage (in my 80 point alpha splat cat).. and it's not just lights, but anything that seems to be moving above a certain speed (possibly combined with torso twisting adding 'velocity' to various locations). And by the same token, I've 1-shotted lights that were moving slow or stopped or on a "straight path" at me or away from me.. but when they're moving all over the place, even a graphic of 90% of the missiles hitting nets little to no damage.

I've noticed problems with Ravens on occasion, but I've noticed problems with all lights as well. .. since I've been running a spider and jenner lately (not speed tweeked yet), I avoid anything with streaks since I can't do enough damage (even with my 30 point alpha on my jenner, full shot into legs of Ravens and Commandos) to survive.. and it seems odd that near full contact from 6xMLs to Raven legs does almost nothing when they're running full speed. There's something clearly and seriously wrong with hit detection and speed..

[Koniving]

CmdrPoopyPants, on 11 March 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

I think there's something wrong with the HSR code, to be honest.. They did "something" to make laser shots work better (they say), but there is still a huge problem with SRMs and ballistics I believe.

Well. They said they made lasers work better. They never said it applied to SRMs or any ballistic other than Machine Guns. Specifically they say it works on lasers, flamers, and machine guns. Nothing else as of yet.