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[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

Gremlich Johns, on 10 March 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

If we lived in the 1950's again, you might find many, MANY people of like mind.

However, society is evolving, sometimes not necessarily for the better. Multiplayer video games with their ubiquitous in-game chat are not the places you should be allowing your kids to play if you are this concerned about the trolls and foul-mouthed teens and 20-somethings. I suggest you give up this one-man campaign and only direct your kids towards single player games where you have the most control. Your only other option would be something like creating Christiangamer.com that could provide servers for multiplayer games that will have controls over everything else but how you smite low your enemies.

A better option is to educate your kids about the in-game chat trolls and how what they say has no impact if you choose to ignore them. It's part of their "ecosystem" whether inside or outside your home - prepare them instead of keeping them ignorant. By and large, I think the MW crowd tends to be a bit better than the other gamers out there.

I'm 37 and I think that atleast in the 50's our society was less of a waste of flesh.

Why should I be forced to make my kids not play something I enjoy and they enjoy just so you all can cry about a possible option to turn of chat on their client? I fail to see how a bunch of cry baby trolls seem to determine how a gaming company proceeds with it's product. I was born and baptized Catholic, haven't been to church service in over 25 years, don't practice it so stop making assumptions about my family and any religious back grounds.

I love how most of the trolls in here seem to believe I'm locking my kids up in a room and not teaching them about life. The point is I'M teaching them about life, not the trolls of the internet, or the pervs of the world. I'm asking for an option that again would have NO BEARING ON YOU OR WHAT YOU WANT TO TROLL. The option would be on his client and would not affect your ability to be **** to others if you so choose.

Belisarius1, on 10 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

This is a team game. Communicating significantly increases your team's chances of winning. You would like to go totally incomunicado, to the point where you don't even see what your team might be trying desperately to make you aware of.

....and you don't see a problem with this?

If you think my 10 year old son being able to read chat to help his team would make a difference to a game, then you need help! He's just learning how to play games like this, he's just learning what it means to play games like this as a team, his skills are above the mech running around in circles for sure, but way below a player whos skills could make the difference. So no I see no problem with this.

[Sadist Cain]

No way should chat be turned off, if theres a problem with vulgarity and a ****** playerbase then that's the issue that needs addressing, 99.9% of people turning off chat will be those who have no desire to play as a team with PUGs or those outside of their own private secret handshake club.

Unity is the key, not division

[Vlad Ward]

Honestly, it sounds more like private servers would be a better solution to your problem, rather than a game-wide change which could negatively impact pick-up drops for the other thousands of people who play the game.

[p4r4g0n]

To be fair to the other players on your / your kids team, the ability to turn chat off should only be available in 8 v 8 where it is presumed that if you're turning it off, your team is on VOIP.

[XIRUSPHERE]

Raise your spawn somewhere else, children do not belong in these games and neither do the entitlements of parents. No argument you present will be worth consideration as being a parent takes away an individuals rationality and replaces it with instinct and entitlement. No one should have to suffer another's children, not the other way around. It's up to an adult to be intelligent enough to control the content they consume not try to change the content so they can consume it when they don't belong.

[Gremlich Johns]

It is strange how you label a person a troll because they are not buying what you're selling. FWIT, Christians tend to be the ones sheltering their children from what they believe to be "evil", hence my use of Christiangamer.com. I could care less what your religion is or if you even belong to one, proceeding through the world with on/off as the only option is narrow-minded and archaic - almost Dark Ages (no, not the BT version). The only way you are going to keep your kids from being exposed to the real trolls is to home-school them and pick their playmates yourself. You may not be locking them up in their rooms, but you are trying to keep their minds under a rock. Have you considered Skinner's work?

[Monky]

I grew up playing games with chat rooms, and profanity filters off, and there's nothing wrong with me, right?


...... right?

Edited by Monky, 10 March 2013 - 03:48 PM.

[darkfall13]

I lost ALL respect for your post and any open mindedness I had for this thread once I got here:

Werewolf486, on 10 March 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

It's a serious post being trolled by a group of people who's choldren will likely grow up and go to school with guns, rob stores, ****, kill, or worse ... Further more, You have no idea how I raise my children

Don't open the can of worms of gun control/gun rights (people "went to school with guns" before the advent of in game chat; hell you used to be able to bring your rifle to class say if you were hunting before school. And the other points; rob stores, whatever **** is, is that the F word? Where'd your kids come from anyway?, kill, AND do things worse, even before the Internet was even invented). AND likewise YOU don't know how to raise OUR kids.

Plus ever hear of "Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB"

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"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB" - Warns those who intend to play the game online about possible exposure to chat (text, audio, video) or other types of user-generated content (e.g., maps, skins) that have not been considered in the ESRB rating assignment

Guess what you're playing? Well your children... good call on the shielding them from potty mouths and real world guns in a game about walking tanks with guns that put our modern technology to shame...

Might want to brush up on this: http://www.esrb.org/...tings_guide.jsp

AND you even pointed out they're not even old enough to agree to the terms of the ToS YOU signed. So this argument is irrelevant, they shouldn't be on here, end of story.

Edited by darkfall13, 10 March 2013 - 03:51 PM.

[The Cheese]

The thing I find strange about not having a mute option, I guess, is that a single player's bad attitude could be enough to turn many people off the game. That's potential income gone, and all because those players had no way of getting away from that one player short of quitting a match.

Surely PGI has thought about this, but for some reason they've decided that the cost of implementation plus the in-game trickle-down effects outweighs the potential loss of income/players.

Edited by The Cheese, 10 March 2013 - 03:38 PM.

[Lyrik]

Belisarius1, on 10 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

This is a team game. Communicating significantly increases your team's chances of winning. You would like to go totally incomunicado, to the point where you don't even see what your team might be trying desperately to make you aware of.

....and you don't see a problem with this?

When are you playing that the chat is so horrible that you want to turn it off for your children?

And why should the devs waste time and money (and not to forget the possibility that it could introduce another bug) for an option which hurts a lot of pugs, takes away friendly barter and concerns only a few people who should better play with their children?

[Adrian Steel]

I was shielded from the real world by my parents. That gave me plenty of opportunity to turn into a raging internet troll potty mouth.

Just teach them the birds and bees already, and show them around the gutter. They'll respect you less when they grow up having to teach themselves about it. True story.

[The Cheese]

Adrian Steel, on 10 March 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

I was shielded from the real world by my parents. That gave me plenty of opportunity to turn into a raging internet troll potty mouth.

Just teach them the birds and bees already, and show them around the gutter. They'll respect you less when they grow up having to teach themselves about it. True story.

This man speaks the truth. However, there's an appropriate time to teach your children about the world, and that time might not coincide with when the children are wanting to play MMOs.

Edited by The Cheese, 10 March 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[Talys]

OP I appreciate the intent, the idea that exposing your children in the deteriorating behaviour and attitudes running rampant these days is somehow better parenting than trying to protect them while they are impressionable is misguided. However, I suspect that in a team based game such as MWO the most you can hope for is a language filter and a 'block' feature which shouldn't be a problem to implement, every other mmo seems to have those. PGI, I'd like to add my vote for these features.

[Red squirrel]

Personally I do not want to disable the chat....but why does PGI not simply implement the feature.
As with many things people on the forums have asked for it is difficult to understand why they dont give some bread crumbs to the users.

I mean talking code it cannot be more than a few lines to implement this.

[darkfall13]

Oh Adrian Steel; the iron of your siggy.

[Aegis Kleais]

I'm with you. The state of sportsmanship and maturity in online gaming gets worse year by year, and the ability to outright disable it can't be much work. It seems to be an overlay which I'm sure could be disabled easily enough by the team, whether they choose to prioritize that or not.

As far as priority goes, netcode seems to be paramount. But more and more, I think my particular setup is one of the minorities that continues to have issues in that area; so chances are, the chat overlay will get addressed before the netcode ever sees a positive improvement.

[XIRUSPHERE]

Anyone else get a tirade of venom filled personal communication for having a rational opinion on the matter? If an adult does not even have self control over his own diatribe and aggression remind me again why we should bend over for his children? I think he might want to look to genetics instead of pointing the finger at everyone else.

[S3dition]

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It's a serious post being trolled by a group of people who's choldren will likely grow up and go to school with guns, rob stores, ****, kill, or worse.

Wait, what? No chat filter is going to make kids turn into ******s, murderers, and go to school with guns? Forget the slippery slope, that is just a cliff. I grew up with guns, violent movies, violent games and some violent neighborhoods. I have yet to do anything you mentioned up above.

Bottom line, if your kids aren't old enough to handle the chat, then you are a bad parent for letting them play a game that is out of their age range. It doesn't matter how much you feel they should be able to play the game with you. Honestly, I don't care if they add a switch or not, as the people who use it would be too anti-social for teamwork anyway.

But what you're arguing is that you should be able to walk into a movie theater and demand that they make a R rated movie appropriate for your kids because you're entitled to watch it with them. The devs have said no already. Trolling the forums and throwing around base insults is not very likely to change that fact, but it is reflecting very poorly on you and your parenting skills.

[Darvaza]

Werewolf486, on 10 March 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

It's a serious post being trolled by a group of people who's choldren will likely grow up and go to school with guns, rob stores, ****, kill, or worse.

I fail to understand how anyone who is trolling this could even care enough to do so. It wouldn't affect you in the least bit. Further more, You have no idea how I raise my children and I would appreciate you keeping your opinions on how I raise my top of their class well behaved children to yourselves. I don't shelter them, I don't beat them, i don't mistreat them, I teach them values I doubt some of you would understand, values I was raised with. Panda, Ghostbear, and others seem to feel the need to constantly be A - Holes about every post I put up on this subject and if they want to spend time doing that then they can waste their time.

It comes down to this, I'm willing to spend money to buy them MC and stuff for the kids, if PGI wants more of my money then they should put Chat On/Off in.

When I was a child you could take guns to school and there were no shootings. During hunting season you expected to see guns in the trucks for afternoon dove, duck, or goose hunting.

The liberal idiotic nanny state and moronic news media created the current environment.

I doubt any of the trolls on this board are going to have any children who grow up to be murdered or robbers. The children who have parents that do not play games with them and teach them right from wrong is a different story.

As noted in my sig I think the chat in game is terrible. It has improved and I do give credit for the improvement, but it is still terrible.

I want an adjustable chat window with variable font size. I dont want to be mid sentence and have it wiped which happens often.

Matt Minus, on 10 March 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

You sound like a horrible, self righteous tyrant of a parent. The kids have already heard all the words you;re trying to shield them from, and a booby never killed anyone.

Only the government is smart enough to teach you how to be a parent to your future children....

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Werewolf486, on 09 March 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

Taken from Ask the Devs Answers #33: Bryan Ekman - Creative Director - Piranha Games Inc.

Werewolf486: Can we have an On/Off switch for chat?

Bryan Ekman: No plans.

Personally I'm disappointed with Bryan and all of PGI for this answer. After so many have asked for it, I've sent a few emails, posted a few threads and the status is "No plans". So they haven't listened to those of us who would like the ability to Turn Off Chat.

Those of us that want this option to be put into the game please post a reply about it in this thread, voice your desire to at have the option to turn off chat. Show your support for a simple option to turn off the vulgarity and debauchery that we should not be forced to put up with. They may have the right to say it, but we should have the right to turn it off. If you just don't want to see it, don't want your children to see it while you play, or want your children to be able to play without being accosted by certain behavior then you should be asking for the option to Turn Chat ON/OFF.

Thank you

PGI Stand up for what is right and put this option into MWO, it would take you less then 2 hours to write the code and test it!

damn big suprise when theyve seen the qq ecm has caused since they put it in and keep telling us its working as intended.
ah so it was INTENDED to be OP and break the timeline of the game at the same time