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[Capnflintlock]

This has been a relatively annoying trend that has been around for a while. Mechs that don't have hardpoints in a arm, such as the cent, or choose not to put weapons/equipment there, gauss catapults and etc, often reduce the armor in that section to zero, simply because its a waste of space. I know the devs have stated they dont like damage transfer simply because it appears magical, but you really should be punished for having 0 armor on any part of your mech.

One possible way this could be fixed without damage transfer being implemented is to simply require ammunition to be stored anywhere other than the legs. As a result, players would have to store ammo in either the arms, torsos, or head. If a player has no armor on his arms, he would be forced to place ammo in the torso, which would result in them being killed faster to body shots. If placed in the arms, it would require them to allocate armor there to prevent it from being lost.

Regardless, I think its silly in general to have ammo stored in the legs, it really doesn't make sense as you'd need some sort of belt to transfer the ammunition up the leg, while they're being contorted from movement. I'm no engineer, but with the muscular fiber, and skeleton in place, along with the wiring and tubing required for cooling, electricity, and etc, there wouldn't be room for a mechanism to transfer ammunition safely to a weapon higher up on the body without a risk of jamming or getting stuck.

Edited by Capnflintlock, 10 March 2013 - 01:53 PM.

[Sable Dove]

Well, just to be tangential, 0 armour is stupid; enemies will immediately see that you have nothing in your arms and ignore them. You should have at least a few points on each arm so that enemies will strip a little armour, then go for what they perceive as a weak spot, when really there's nothing there.

[EvangelionUnit]

the risk of storing ammo in legs? if you overheat you are gone ... simple as that, i had a round with my jenner, AMS ammo in one leg, SRM in the other ... overheat and a quick push on the F key ... (i changed my layout, o is to far away from wasd) and BOOM ... evangelionunit killed evangelionunit

[focuspark]

Cent without armoring his/her arms has a moron pilot. The shield arm can be epic when used correctly.

That said, CDA arms are generally useless and I generally very lightly armor them.

[Deathlike]

focuspark, on 10 March 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

That said, CDA arms are generally useless and I generally very lightly armor them.

If only I could use those arms like those in the vids... http://www.youtube.c...bI_IgbCF_n4WTax , it would be worth putting armor for them...

[Khobai]

If you get shot in your arm hole, it should do damage directly to your side torso internals.

[LackofCertainty]

Your poll is biased, because you word it in a loaded way, so I didn't vote.

My response would be "You should be punished for loading no armor on your arms, but you already are with the way the game works now." Arms in the game can be used to physically block shots that would otherwise hit your torsos. If you run with no armor on your arms, then your arms get stripped away and destroyed that much faster, Thus you lose the ability to shield your torso from that side.

I load nearly full armor on my atlas' arms, and I know that I've failed as a pilot if I haven't at least lost all the armor from one of my arms before I lose a side torso. I could easily strip most of the armor off my atlas's arms, because people always target my RT first, but doing so would leave my RT even more vulnerable.

If you're a terrible pilot who never uses torso twist to absorb shots, then go ahead a strip all the armor from your arms. I'll continue loading at least a moderate amount of armor and taking advantage of my built in bullet shields.

Edited by LackofCertainty, 10 March 2013 - 04:39 PM.

[Roland]

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I know the devs have stated they dont like damage transfer simply because it appears magical, but you really should be punished for having 0 armor on any part of your mech.

If you shoot someone's arm, the extra damage actually does transfer to their side torso.