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[Ngamok]

I need to get Master on my Trebuchets still, all 3 variants are just starting the 21,500 XP master box. And I still have the CDA-X5 and CDA-2A to finish as well . I might get these after the Highlander is out though.

[Little Nemo]

Gandalfrockman, on 13 March 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

Thats not what I mean, an AC20 takes 10 slots, each arm has just enough room for one AC20 and NOTHING else.
So if you bring dual AC20's your prolly going to be giving up your missile slots.

Its a nice way to balance the incredible hitting power of dual ac20's.

I was saying its a good choice.

[Culler]

Fast boomcat with better aiming capabilities in exchange for easier to knock out weaponry? Sounds great!

[armyof1]

I've been trying to fit different kind of of ballistic loadouts on it based on the ctf-4x design and just leave 5 tons free as Jaeger is only 65 tons compared to ctf being 70. The most I can put on it is just uac5/ac2 on each arm and ammo if I want it to be quick with a 300XL engine and good armor. I think the max 65t limit is really making it hard to use all 4 ballistic hardpoints.

Edited by armyof1, 13 March 2013 - 10:17 AM.

[Coolant]

Eddrick, on 12 March 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

That background looks familiar. I just can't put my finger on from what.

Those jagged shards in the background is Superman's Fortress of Solitude...

[Kingdok]

Jacmac, on 13 March 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

The only problem is trying to use it on a long range map. The quad UAC5 sounds fun until you find out you'll be traveling at 40KPH with about 10 shots before you're out of ammo.

Stuff and nonsense...! Grow a pair and shove an XL engine in there. 56.1 kph (pre-tweak) with the 225XL, endosteel, 10 double heastsinks, and you have enough space and tonnage left over to fit 4 UAC5's, 8 tons of ammo, and 6.5 tons of standard armor. Zero open critical slots.

Yes - the triple UAC5 Ultramets can continuously chainfire those cannons, and it's great. I'll put the Jagermech arms in different weapon groups and see how it goes.

My primary concern will be living long enough to run out of ammo once the battle is joined.... if I can manage to drop a reasonable percentage of my 1000 max damage on targets, it will be glorious dakka domination. If I get targeted by any halfway competent LRM carrier, I will be spectating shortly.

Edited by Kingdok, 13 March 2013 - 11:53 AM.

[Kingdok]

Thontor, on 13 March 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

That is a glass turret cannon if I have ever seen one. 6.5 of armor at 56 kph is pretty much suicide. That is less armor than a max armor Spider.

More of a tinfoil turret, methinks, but yeah....

I may only drive it for a little while in this configuration. But it WILL be built.

[Khanahar]

But can I still call it a Jager (JAG-er) mech rather than Jager (YAY-ger) mech like I did when I was a kid playing MC1?

Then again, I pronounced Gauss wrong back then too (like BB! wrong=like gauze but with an s for the z, right= gOWs with the OW pronounced like an exclamation of pain).

Also, Davion pride. Gonna def run a 3UAC build if I can make it work.

[Kingdok]

Khanahar, on 13 March 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

But can I still call it a Jager (JAG-er) mech rather than Jager (YAY-ger) mech like I did when I was a kid playing MC1?

Then again, I pronounced Gauss wrong back then too (like BB! wrong=like gauze but with an s for the z, right= gOWs with the OW pronounced like an exclamation of pain).

Also, Davion pride. Gonna def run a 3UAC build if I can make it work.

I'm hoping for 6 AC2's at some point. Do we have a Jagermech with 6 ballistic hardpoints, or don't we know yet? Probably would only put 5 on, to have some chance of cooling it.

[Major Scumbag]

Glad to see a heavy that can sport 2 ballistic and not in same slot like the Atlas. Just wish they gave ballistics some love before coming out with a ballistic mech. Lasers and missles got some love but per tonnage. Ballistic sucks. Perfect example is compare the LBX-10 to 1 SRM 6. Even the ammo sucks. 10 per ton LBX. 1 ton of SRM is 100 missles. LBX weighs way way more then the SRM 6. The damage on LBX sucks badly compared to the SRM 6.

[Gandalfrockman]

Major Scumbag, on 13 March 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Glad to see a heavy that can sport 2 ballistic and not in same slot like the Atlas. Just wish they gave ballistics some love before coming out with a ballistic mech. Lasers and missles got some love but per tonnage. Ballistic sucks. Perfect example is compare the LBX-10 to 1 SRM 6. Even the ammo sucks. 10 per ton LBX. 1 ton of SRM is 100 missles. LBX weighs way way more then the SRM 6. The damage on LBX sucks badly compared to the SRM 6.

I See solid applications for all 3 on the Jeagermech,

There are 3 good ballisitic weapons atm:
-UAC5
-AC20
-AC2

Edited by Gandalfrockman, 13 March 2013 - 01:24 PM.

[Major Scumbag]

Gandalfrockman, on 13 March 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

There are 3 good ballisitic weapons atm:
-UAC5
-AC20
-AC2

Yep those are basiclly I use the most. Add the Gauss though. But tonnage wise they come up short. I tend to stay away from AC/20 if I can. Simply the 7 shots per tons kill me. UAC5 is very good weapon when you group them.

Edited by Major Scumbag, 13 March 2013 - 01:26 PM.

[Gandalfrockman]

Major Scumbag, on 13 March 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

Yep those are basiclly I use the most. Add the Gauss though. But tonnage wise they come up short. I tend to stay away from AC/20 if I can. Simply the 7 shots per tons kill me. UAC5 is very good weapon when you group them.

-I will probably attempt Quad UAC5, but abandon it quickly, as this will be a terrible loadout. Slow, not enough ammo, or armor.
-Then I plan to try dual AC20's with an XL engine. You cant carry much ammo, but when you crush everything in 2-3 salvos, how much ammo do you really need?

[Little Nemo]

Gandalfrockman, on 13 March 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

I See solid applications for all 3 on the Jeagermech,

There are 3 good ballisitic weapons atm:
-UAC5
-AC20
-AC2

AC2, AC5... No.

[F lan Ker]

S!

Was just about to head out for a longish break from MWO and PGI drops the Jagermech + new map...there goes my time off

[Gandalfrockman]

Skinny Pete, on 13 March 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

AC2, AC5... No.

I didnt list AC5, I said UAC5, which might as well be a completely different weapon.
AC2's are seeing some pretty effective use nowadays, 3 or four of them in linked fire deals solid dps over frankly assinine distances.

[Major Scumbag]

Gandalfrockman, on 13 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

-I will probably attempt Quad UAC5, but abandon it quickly, as this will be a terrible loadout. Slow, not enough ammo, or armor. -Then I plan to try dual AC20's with an XL engine. You cant carry much ammo, but when you crush everything in 2-3 salvos, how much ammo do you really need?

Most likely would be carrying dual AC/20. With 5 tons of ammo. That is only 17 shots. With that amount of tonage to put on dual AC/20 and ammo. Doesnt leave room for anything else. Well not like any other mech can carry more then 2 AC/20's.
I would like to see some of the ballistics get there tonage lowered. AC/20 on an arm and takes alot of slots and most likely be taken out quick.

Edited by Major Scumbag, 13 March 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[Kraven Kor]

AC/5 is not a bad weapon, it just should not be a primary weapon.

[DirePhoenix]

Gandalfrockman, on 13 March 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

-Then I plan to try dual AC20's with an XL engine. You cant carry much ammo, but when you crush everything in 2-3 salvos, how much ammo do you really need?

Always one more shot than you have left.

[DegeneratePervert]

Dual AC/20s will be wonderful on the Jager. I don't expect to see many dual gauss, since gauss rifles are so darn fragile. Another possibility would be to use 4x UAC/5s (possibly, dunno about viability) and dish out absurdly huge DPS in chainfire. Or just give me six ballistic hardpoints and let me mount 6x AC/2s for MAXIMUM DAKKA.