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[bob the goat]

people who say this system or that weapon system is over balanced...i say BULL CRAP!
every major conflict in history one side or another had one advantage or another
war is NOT fair! war is not balanced neither is life and thus nor should a Game be
read:
sun tzu the art of war.
clausewitz on war.
or just about anything written on the subject by any general with a winning record it is all the same.

it is about team work, coordination, innovation.
improvise, adapt and overcome.
like Publius Cornelius Tacitus said "good fortune conceals the genius of a general,
adversity reveals it."

its one thing to offer comments about bugs and observations with the intent of improving whatever is being looked at, but it is quite another to be a whiny little "B" just complaining for complaining sake. I have played just about everyone of the cheeze builds, AC 20 cat, Gauss cat, Splat cat, LRM boat of various kinds....and you know what? I have had my *** handed to me many times by a good team....sometimes the team who kicks my *** has underpowered mechs like the hunchback. The point is life is not fair, no game can be compelling if it is compleatly balanced because there is no thrill. The other point is a good team will kick the pants off any cheese build no matter how powerful it is. A wolf pack can bring down anything by working together. There are many examples in ancient history and recent history where the underdog takes out the big evil empire. In WW2 for example the germans to counter the allies advantage in tank numbers thought latteraly and used a Flack gun ( anti air) (the dreaded 88) to great effect as a tank killer. The Allies then had to inovate and adapt to win ( which obviously they did or your would be spreakonzi dutch) they could not phone the german high comand and say "hey you guys have an over powered gun that was not supposed to be used as a anti tank weapon thats not fair can you stop using it please" so lets all remember this is an open BETA not an ALPHA and we should help the dev by being happy that this game is here at all. Salute......

Edited by elijah temujin, 13 March 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[Adrian Steel]

The TL;DR:

elijah temujin, on 13 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

let all remeber this is an open BETA not an ALPHA

* In name only.

Edited by Adrian Steel, 13 March 2013 - 07:31 PM.

[Chavette]

/popcorn

[Davers]

When I complain it is constructive criticism. When other people complain it is whining. That's the difference!

[bob the goat]

that still counts....

[FrostCollar]

elijah temujin, on 13 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

every major conflict in history one side or another had one advantage or another
war is NOT fair!

This is when I stopped reading.

[wolf74]

An 88gunner was taken alive.
Tank commander :How dare you use a gun that big to kill our tanks.
88 Gunner: How dare you use tanks that only the 88 can kill.

[bob the goat]

hey its kool to poke fun at what I said....I dont take this to seriously and that is the point.
was just trying to say....its a hell of a game and rules lawyer always figure out how to tweak any system and break it.
so what.
game on.

[FupDup]

elijah temujin, on 13 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

people who say this system or that weapon system is over balanced...i say BULL CRAP!
every major conflict in history one side or another had one advantage or another
war is NOT fair! war is not balanced neither is life and thus nor should a Game be

Implying that MWO is a real life war.


Apples n' oranges. Don't compare them. A more accurate comparison would be to sports (MWO ain't an Esport but the rules of competition, sportsmanship, etc. still apply). "What's the big deal if one team in baseball decides to take steroids? Just adapt!"

Edited by FupDup, 13 March 2013 - 07:49 PM.

[Adrian Steel]

FupDup, on 13 March 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

Implying that MWO is a real life war.

Implying video games shouldn't be balanced.

[bob the goat]

also that people being smart little naked monkeys will always figure out how to un balance things....
we do it to everything.
every game i have ever played (and in my years I have played A LOT)
the dev TRY to balance it but some SOB comes a long and figures a work around
it will ALWAYS happen, get over it.
and lets enjoy playing...cause if you enjoy Whinning more than playing
I think oprah has an opening on OWN.

[FupDup]

Adrian Steel, on 13 March 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

Implying video games shouldn't be balanced.

Implying that I wouldn't enjoy MWO getting some serious balancing changes.

[Adrian Steel]

FupDup, on 13 March 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

Implying that I wouldn't enjoy MWO getting some serious balancing changes.

Yeah, bad quote... was meant for the OP.

[Tickdoff Tank]

I infer, from your implication, that you are alluding to the insinuation of the OP that MWO is in need of additional balancing.

Have I, in fact, correctly deciphered your suggestion, or was my inference erroneous?

[valkyrie]

FupDup, on 13 March 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

"What's the big deal if one team in baseball decides to take steroids? Just adapt!"

MECHROID FLUSH, ONLY 50MC/USE!

[Thirdstar]

[Critical Fumble]

Implying that anyone wants to play a "real war" game.

"I got dysentery AGAIN?!"

[Vapor Trail]

Obviously a troll thread, but I'm bored, I'll bite.

elijah temujin, on 13 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

war is NOT fair! war is not balanced neither is life and thus nor should a Game be

Sure thing.
Lets play Monopoly.
I get to be banker and start with all the money.
You start with nothing.
I get the dice and can move however many squares I want.
You get to move one square at a time.
I'll even let you go first.

Sound balanced?
Sound fun?

War is not a game. Games are not war.

You can apply the all the Sun Tzu and Clausewitz you want when you play the game.
But Sun Tzu and Clausewitz have as much to do with building video games as they do with producing good "adult entertainment" (thank you CensorBot).

Edited by Vapor Trail, 13 March 2013 - 08:59 PM.

[Tickdoff Tank]

Critical Fumble, on 13 March 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

Implying that anyone wants to play a "real war" game.

"I got dysentery AGAIN?!"

Try the BRATY diet. Bananas, Rice, Applesauce, Toast, Yogurt. If needed take immodium, but you are best served by allowing the diarrhea to run it's course. Drink plenty of fluids and return to the clinic for a follow up tomorrow before 0700 and I will write a note to your supervisor so you can RTW.

Sorry, worked as a paramedic in Iraq and Afghanistan for so long that it is an automatic response

Edited by Tickdoff Tank, 13 March 2013 - 08:58 PM.

[Mystere]

FupDup, on 13 March 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

"What's the big deal if one team in baseball decides to take steroids? Just adapt!"

Well, I will adapt (i.e. practice harder) and report them cheaters to the authorities at the same time. It' a double win for me.