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#1 Truthstar

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:46 AM

Here it is....these Forums.

Mechwarrior Online's Community needs support from an open and understanding Forum Team.

Instead, the Mods have turned into the Thought Police and even more unfortunately, had their ranks flooded with Goon members via the Volunteer program abusing the system.

MechWarrior. Warrior. Team Battles. Where are they? These Forums are nothing more than complaints about the game and PGI's failings instead of an active, combat Community. Any hint of team warfare for lure/realism sake in a post result in threads either locked, edited, deleted or members getting banned. And then to hide behind a CoC as an excuse...its an absolute sham.

PGI needs to direct its attention on the poor Forum Management. Let us Mechwarriors have an area to act as such, promote our Units and advance the House Warfare Community because it WILL improve PGI/Community relations and overall gaming experience.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:54 AM

Ya I've seen some PoS Goons and lots of Liaos become Mods. The abuse this forum will get if they have any kind of power over it, lol. Nice job Piranha. That's like giving ex convicts some badges/guns and saying, "GL out there. The city is counting on you."

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:57 AM

Just gotta chime in and pile on the goons.

I don't get why people associate themselves with a community known for griefing and harassment. (And playing EVE Online apparently).

IMO it's just normal "humans like feeling like a part of something" behavior, and unfortunately, group-think usually tends to result in worse behavior than an individual would usually partake in.

I am honestly interested in why people associate themselves with that group though. Is it that you find their antics humorous? Do they have a hilarious blog or website that attracted you? Because in-game actions certainly wouldn't attract anyone from what I've seen.

Edited by Zeh, 14 March 2013 - 12:03 PM.


#4 Davers

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

View PostTruthstar, on 14 March 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Here it is....these Forums.

Mechwarrior Online's Community needs support from an open and understanding Forum Team.

Instead, the Mods have turned into the Thought Police and even more unfortunately, had their ranks flooded with Goon members via the Volunteer program abusing the system.

MechWarrior. Warrior. Team Battles. Where are they? These Forums are nothing more than complaints about the game and PGI's failings instead of an active, combat Community. Any hint of team warfare for lure/realism sake in a post result in threads either locked, edited, deleted or members getting banned. And then to hide behind a CoC as an excuse...its an absolute sham.

PGI needs to direct its attention on the poor Forum Management. Let us Mechwarriors have an area to act as such, promote our Units and advance the House Warfare Community because it WILL improve PGI/Community relations and overall gaming experience.

How are the mods keeping you from promoting your units? Isn't there a whole forum dedicated to unit promotion, as well as house specific forums filled with recruitment ads?

What does "Any hint of team warfare for lure/realism sake in a post result in threads either locked, edited, deleted or members getting banned." even mean?

#5 Duncan Longwood

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:01 PM

So....TL:DR
Moderators hide behind elephant CoC? The CoC makes the forums suck? I bet the mods lock your CoC-block thread.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:02 PM

There's an elephant? Shoot that *******!

Oh wait, never mind it's just another pointless ill-thought out QQ telling pgi how to do their job.

Your tinfoil hat is on back order I'm guessing.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostDuncan Longwood, on 14 March 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

So....TL:DR
Moderators hide behind elephant CoC? The CoC makes the forums suck? I bet the mods lock your CoC-block thread.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Havent read something this unfunny for months

#8 Tice Daurus

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:04 PM

The QQ'ing on the forums here are epic.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostZeh, on 14 March 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

I am honestly interested in why people associate themselves with that group though. Is it that you find their antics humorous? Do they have a hilarious blog or website that attracted you? Because in-game actions certainly wouldn't attract anyone from what I've seen.


Some of the stuff on SA is pretty hilarious, I'm quite a fan of the WTF D&D articles.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:05 PM

View PostDavers, on 14 March 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

How are the mods keeping you from promoting your units? Isn't there a whole forum dedicated to unit promotion, as well as house specific forums filled with recruitment ads?

What does "Any hint of team warfare for lure/realism sake in a post result in threads either locked, edited, deleted or members getting banned." even mean?



Make a post about how much better your Unit is than another or the results of a match. It's locked, edited or deleted.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

View PostTruthstar, on 14 March 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:



Make a post about how much better your Unit is than another or the results of a match. It's locked, edited or deleted.


http://mwomercs.com/...m/152-kaetetoa/

This is the place for posts like that.

#12 OneEyed Jack

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:08 PM

Yeah, what this game really needs is 500 separate posts of the same crap in one day so that nothing else can even be found. It needs the "community" to be able to scream profanity publicly and at the top of their lungs at the company making it. It really needs constant written flogging or it will never grow into a nice game with a friendly, respectful following.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:08 PM

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:09 PM

View PostTruthstar, on 14 March 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:



Make a post about how much better your Unit is than another or the results of a match. It's locked, edited or deleted.


Well.. Duh.

What are you planning on accomplishing with a "My unit is better than this unit" thread? (Assuming it's in the appropriate forum.)

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:09 PM

View PostTruthstar, on 14 March 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:



Make a post about how much better your Unit is than another or the results of a match. It's locked, edited or deleted.


Are you calling particular names? That's disallowed, not sure why you're surprised.

Goons at one point were a source of alot of the funny on the internet. As it became more popular though just like with anything the average member became less and less where it's now still got some good members, but trolls also found a safe haven there.

Average goon is a good guy, but prone to trolling. The problem seems to come from the low functioning goons, they go far beyond the bottom of the normal people you run in to on the internet (and that's saying something).

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

dissipation... we're going to stick with wasteful expenditure 'n call it good.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

just like to point out that a lot of the positive and creative posts mainly seem to happen in team forums on there team/group website

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:19 PM

View PostDavers, on 14 March 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:


http://mwomercs.com/...m/152-kaetetoa/

This is the place for posts like that.


It's also the home for Goons and trollies like Agent of Change. You enter at your own risk. The overflow of stupid might be too much to handle. ;)

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostTruthstar, on 14 March 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Here it is....these Forums.

Mechwarrior Online's Community needs support from an open and understanding Forum Team.

Instead, the Mods have turned into the Thought Police and even more unfortunately, had their ranks flooded with Goon members via the Volunteer program abusing the system.

MechWarrior. Warrior. Team Battles. Where are they? These Forums are nothing more than complaints about the game and PGI's failings instead of an active, combat Community. Any hint of team warfare for lure/realism sake in a post result in threads either locked, edited, deleted or members getting banned. And then to hide behind a CoC as an excuse...its an absolute sham.

PGI needs to direct its attention on the poor Forum Management. Let us Mechwarriors have an area to act as such, promote our Units and advance the House Warfare Community because it WILL improve PGI/Community relations and overall gaming experience.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 12:24 PM

So it's basically like every game forum anywhere? Have you seen the Diablo 3 forums? This place is a happy puppy dog paradise compared to a lot of game forums I've been in.

As for the "thought police" I can't say that I've seen post locked that weren't straight up rule violations/troll posts or they were closed with a "pleas direct your thought/criticisms to the official feedback thread".





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