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[M4NTiC0R3X]

http://mwomercs.com/...30#entry1868030

What's that? A freakin Spider!?

[Kylere]

Light Mechs Without Ecm Are Not EASY To Play

Fixed for you.

[VoltarDark]

Sure, i can still manage to do something even get top score with any lights w/o ECM. But the point is : its not as fun as it should be and in competitive play they don't hold their ground well enough for me. On a sunny day, i should want to play any of my mechs without fear to jeopardy my team.

Thanks for comments !

[stjobe]

Light 'mechs without ECM are exactly what you say they aren't: Fun to play. What they are not is necessarily as effective as a light 'mech with ECM. But your mileage may vary with your skill level.

My latest light project is my Ghetto Panther PNT-10K. It's fun as hell, and reasonably effective too - first drop in it netted me 2 kills, 4 assists, and over 1000 XP.

Piloting a light is not for everyone. You need to be a bit crazy to do it well

[Rift Hawk]

VoltarDark, on 14 March 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

I own and have nearly mastered all the mechs but the commandos and few heroes one.

I find that with the last improvement to the netcode, the light weight class one without ECM, especially the commandos are not able to hold theirs ground and by using them, one jeopardized the winning chances of his team.

I cant find any roles for the commandos without ecm but being cannon fodder.

It's very tedious to level them and it`s a real painful experience.

Only the spider or Jenner with jumpjets can be fun.

Suggestion :
Add some internal stealth equipment that mask his position to radar outside a 270 meters or greater range.

See you in game.

Use your lights as a scout. Its the role they were meant for. They were never meant for running circles around other mechs and blasting them into oblivion. Now people have to play smarter and more in line with what lights are supposed to be.

I will however agree with you. I played lights for a while and really the only light that can hold its own is the raven with ecm. If your a light and this thing comes at you, you don't stand a chance.

[Paula Fry]

The 2d and the 3l are the only nasty little buggers in their class. You only play the others for the master skills.....didnt you know?

Pgi made it that way so you have to suffer for the anoying games you do to the other players when you masterd thoose ECM

MADNESS MECHS!

[hammerreborn]

VoltarDark, on 14 March 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

Sure, i can still manage to do something even get top score with any lights w/o ECM. But the point is : its not as fun as it should be and in competitive play they don't hold their ground well enough for me. On a sunny day, i should want to play any of my mechs without fear to jeopardy my team.

Thanks for comments !

I average 341 damage a match with my D, I think that's more than enough for "holding my ground". Ya I have some crap matches where lrms rain from the sky and instantly incinerate me, or I turn a corner into a splat cat. But other times I'm playing whack-a-mole with atlases jumping to and fro on rooftops shooting down at him while he vainly tries to bring his ac/20 to bear, or on their heads and hitching rides.

Oh, and if some of the LRM damage that I direct using my TAG was given to me I'd probably break 500 a match.

Edited by hammerreborn, 14 March 2013 - 09:54 AM.

[Metalcell]

I don't know why people keep saying the ECM raven isn't OP when it clearly is OP and thats only because of the way ECM works right now

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

You're just not doing it right.
I have more fun in my 4x and 3c then I do in my 3L and 3M. If by fun you mean lots of kills, well maybe you should take a look at the game from a different angle.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 14 March 2013 - 10:04 AM.

[hammerreborn]

Metalcell, on 14 March 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

I don't know why people keep saying the ECM raven isn't OP when it clearly is OP and thats only because of the way ECM works right now

Because the raven being OP has nothing to do with ECM and has everything to do with an apparent bug with explosive damage, the 3Ls hitbox arrangements, and netcode issues.

Edited by hammerreborn, 14 March 2013 - 09:56 AM.

[Paula Fry]

I wanted to know if it is Uber and bought one yesterday evening.And i have had maybe 20 drops in lights before that Time.

RAVEN RVN-3L 8 5 3 1.67 11 3 3.67 2,614 5,258 00:45:32

8 Games 3,67 KD. my normal score is about 1.5 so its more then twice as high then with my other mechs.

What happens when i have 100 drops in that Monster....saw Guys play 1000 DMG Rounds in that little Bird!

Edited by Paula Fry, 14 March 2013 - 10:01 AM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

M4NTiC0R3X, on 14 March 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

Ya because typing in huge letters with huge spaces isn't "fluffing" or shameful AT ALL.

NOPE.

NOT AT ALL

Block if you like, but spare us your wasteful/worthless posts before doing so, not after.

yomommasamoner, on 14 March 2013 - 09:29 AM, said:

This is a problem if your fighting a 3L using streaks, but you titled this thread "Light Mechs Without ECM Are Not Fun To Play", which is a different issue.

"you titled"? I don't recall making this thread, lol. But the title is true, and not a different issue than what I said.

Edited by Bluten, 14 March 2013 - 10:01 AM.

[stjobe]

hammerreborn, on 14 March 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

Because the raven being OP has nothing to do with ECM and has everything to do with an apparent bug with explosive damage, the 3Ls hitbox arrangements, and netcode issues.

To be fair, those three issues do not preclude that the ECM is also contributing to the skill-bird's OPness.

[hammerreborn]

Paula Fry, on 14 March 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

I wanted to know if it is Uber and bought one yesterday evening.And i have had maybe 20 drops in lights before that Time.

RAVEN RVN-3L 8 5 3 1.67 11 3 3.67 2,614 5,258 00:45:32

8 Games 3,67 KD. my normal score is about 1.5 so its more then twice as high then with my other mechs.

What happens when i have 100 drops in that Monster....saw Guys play 1000 DMG Rounds in that little Bird!

And that would have nothing to do with ELO matching you against weaker opponents because you have no established ELO for the light class and everything to do with 3Ls being OP.

stjobe, on 14 March 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

To be fair, those three issues do not preclude that the ECM is also contributing to the skill-bird's OPness.

I've met very few ravens I couldn't kill unless they were massively pinging or just equal to or better than me.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

The ECM is only OP if you are only set up with weapons that "lock on". If thats the case maybe another pass at your build is in order.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 14 March 2013 - 10:09 AM.

[Kraven Kor]

They are still fun to play.

If you enjoy losing

[stjobe]

Another good match in my Ghetto Panther PNT-10K: 2 kills, 5 assists, 400+ damage, and 1200+ XP.

Who needs ECM?

[Ghost_19Hz]

[hammerreborn]

PythonCPT, on 14 March 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Easy, the devs designed it that way and all functions are currently operational and working properly. Pretty much the definition of working as it should be, unlike explosive damage apparently.

Edited by hammerreborn, 14 March 2013 - 01:41 PM.

[Silentium]

Don't care, not quitting the addiction.

It's a love affair, mainly Jesus and my Jenner.