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#21 Cebi

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

No thanks. If you killed off the repeated threads this forum would be really, really dull.

Nothing wrong with discussing an issue over and over if it is still an issue.

#22 General Taskeen

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostTice Daurus, on 15 March 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:


GT, it's not worthless if even a little change is possible. Less repetitive thread posting, even if this brings awareness to the problem and reduces it, just a little is a victory in itself. Now that might be a rose-colored glasses POV, but I'd rather be that then turn into a bitter forum-posting troll because I'm too far gone to where I'm part of the problem and not part of the solution.


Perhaps. Your posts are fair.

But, I think the best idea's get buried under all the rubble if its piled into one place. I think I need to spend less time on these forums myself. 'Frustrating' about sums it up.

Edited by General Taskeen, 15 March 2013 - 11:41 AM.


#23 Noobzorz

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:18 PM

View PostTice Daurus, on 15 March 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

Mods, I'm not flaming you here in this thread nor do I want to turn this into a "rebel" against the mods here, I'm creating this as a constructive criticism. If afterwards you want to lock this fine, but I would like this to be mentioned to all of the mods so we can start gaining some semblence of sanity back here in the General Discussions board.

Lately there have been a lot of repeat topic threads, stuff that's been mentioned over and over and over.

Case in point: The past several days there were 3 different "I want Capping removed from the game" threads which served no purpose. We've already dealt with this. Capping is here to stay, many people want capping and feel it's a viable way to win the game and it also creates a feel for tactical play in the game. However it was brought back up at least 3 times in a little over a week's time.

It's getting to the point to where the GD board here is regurgitating the same topics over and over and over again that this has to stop. Now I know that the mods will most likely lock this, and I'm ok with this, because it's discussing how to tell the moderators to do their business. I for one appreciate what the moderators do, I know it's a thankless job, one filled with repetitive agony and dispair and you couldn't have me be a moderator for all of the tea in China. It's a rough, thankless job.

What I'm asking is that when a particular thread is been rehashed over and over like this, I'm asking that the mods close it, if it's bringing up the same damn thing over and over. With one exception:

If the thread is well-thought out and specifically mentioning a topic that similar but not. I know I'm being a bit vague here. Let me explain further...say someone mentions nerfing SRM's again, but takes a well thought out post as to explain why SRM's need to be nerfed with facts and research as to why they need to be nerfed and the topic is discussed specifically on that research and facts, then let it slide. But if it's yet another topic on SRM's with no thought put into the topic saying "SRM's need to be nerfed!" with no forethought put into the topic or ECM again, you guys know what to do.

For the most part you guys have been doing your jobs, and I applaud that you have been doing this. But the General Discussion boards are rehashing old topics over and over and over again and we need to get more of a handle on this.

Again, my apologies for telling you your business, and I know this is borderline anarchy here, but I'm asking for a plea so we can get the General Discussion boards under control. My apologies, and thanks for listening.


I don't think I can reasonably be accused of doing this, so bear that in mind when you read this next thing:

These forums are the furthest thing from borderline anarchy. By the standards of such things (online game forums) they are quite civil and well run.

New topics are good for discussion. Burying things or confining them to a single topic neuters this, since people have to read through pages and pages and pages of old stuff to get caught up. You will recall this occurred when the whole P2W scandal was on.

Anyway, I manifestly disagree with this. The only real change that needs to be made is removing about three quarters of the pinned topics.

Edit: Removed pointlessly mean thing. Sorry bra. Didn't mean it.

Edited by Noobzorz, 15 March 2013 - 12:50 PM.


#24 Pht

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

This board almost moves too quickly to be moderated.

Even posts that get hundreds of replies fall off of the first page very quickly on these boards.

I'm amazed that the MODs can keep up as much as they DO.

#25 Noobzorz

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostPht, on 15 March 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

This board almost moves too quickly to be moderated.

Even posts that get hundreds of replies fall off of the first page very quickly on these boards.

I'm amazed that the MODs can keep up as much as they DO.


Nixing 10 of the 12 useless pinned threads up there would be a great start.

#26 Pht

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:33 PM

Or they could fold them all into one or two links pinned at the top, in broadly related groupings.

#27 KuruptU4Fun

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:36 PM

It's a volume thing really, for as many threads I've seen created, I usually only see one mod surfing at the time, most often that not a volunteer for that matter.

People don't care to use the search function, even if they did, it would still bring the same issues up to the forefront anyways...

#28 Star Colonel Mustard Kerensky

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

I guess it's a choice between 1000 threads on the subject or one 1000 page thread with people replying to year old posts.
And lots of Posted Image

Edited by Astroniomix, 15 March 2013 - 12:53 PM.


#29 Pht

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:55 PM

These problems are exactly why I find myself having to dig threads up off of the third or fourth page that are only a few days old...

it's a genuine problem - because no threads ever stay on the first page for any amount of time beyond maybe a few hours, there is no decent progress made in any discussion on these forums, giving the general impression of problems festering because the threads discussing them keep recurring.

#30 xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

They already close or scrap duplicate threads. But it doesn't matter if people want to keep the same issues going every week -that's what you don't realize- as long is there aren't a bunch of threads about it at the same time on the front page.

View PostNoobzorz, on 15 March 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:


Nixing 10 of the 12 useless pinned threads up there would be a great start.


That's something they could do. A lot of those pinned things are needless or things no one cares about. It's just wasted space on our front page.

#31 Sephlock

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:10 PM

Copy pasted from a lazy, delusional communist:

"in this moderation thread I really really hope someone brings up the bolsheviks

and democratic centralism

he is asking exactly for soviet style moderation lol"

#32 Cache

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:14 PM

View PostTice Daurus, on 15 March 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

Well, not asking for Soviet Russia type of moderation, just a better style of moderation to say lock a repetative thread with a post from the mod saying this has already been discussed, please do a search for the previous topic regarding the last known issue regarding that topic, and it will keep repetative threads down, so we can focus on talking about different issues. But yeah, I get what you are saying Kraven.

I'm all for this, but there's one massive problem: the forum search SUCKS right now. Trying to find anything relevant is a pain and you can't even search individual forums.

#33 malibu43

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:16 PM

View PostPht, on 15 March 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

These problems are exactly why I find myself having to dig threads up off of the third or fourth page that are only a few days old... it's a genuine problem - because no threads ever stay on the first page for any amount of time beyond maybe a few hours, there is no decent progress made in any discussion on these forums, giving the general impression of problems festering because the threads discussing them keep recurring.


Totally agree. I would prefer to see one 100 page thread than ten 10 page threads. I've asked a question before (not about one of the hot topics) and it was on page 2 after 1.5 hours. There were like 4 new ECM threads and 4 splat cat threads on page one.

I think part of the problem is that people think that what they have to say about ECM (just for example. Could be splat cats or LRMs or ELO, etc...) is so new and revolutionary that everyone needs to see it and it should have it's own thread. The reality is that it is the same crap regurgitated over and over again.





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