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Bluten, on 17 March 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:

It also ceases to be a beta if the companies in charge are already marketing the product as a primary goal. Here you've got hero variants. This is taking development time away from "finishing" the game in favor of "marketing" the game. This is what you'd do with a released product; make more DLC or things to sell. It's not what you'd do with a game mid development.

Beta tag here is basically just a shield. On the other hand, released and marketed or not, they're still telling you it isn't done, which it isn't. So either play it or don't. I hate seeing the "it's a beta" line drops as well, because that's not an excuse for anything. That's what they say when they have nothing better to say. It has replaced "YOUR MOM" lines. It's not finished, but it's not a "beta" either.

This argument is still weak however, those Hero Mechs bring in income as low hanging fruit. They have been demonstrably adding content (paid and free) along with structural changes. This would be true if that's all they were doing, which is not the case.

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Coolant, on 17 March 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

hey, I'm all for constructive criticism, I've given plenty to date. However, that is just Massively's criteria. They are not the only source for MMO material and news. Do a search on MMO's...you'll find hundreds of sites. Just because 1 major site doesn't allow MWO to fit the bill of Open Beta doesn't mean it doesn't apply. Besides that, PGI has been clear THEY think it's Open Beta and have been clear about that.

And I'm saying it doesn't matter what PGI say it is. What matters is player perception and the overarching word of mouth the game has already received.

I simply used the Massively article to illustrate a widely held belief that games in Open Beta like MWO (this is a specific criteria) cannot hide behind the Beta tag.

I did also point out previously that MWO will never functionally come out of Beta. Online games never do.

Riogar Daylighter, on 17 March 2013 - 07:41 AM, said:

I can only fathom this thread was made just to start an argument.

Why, because you disagree with the premise or because the premise makes you uncomfortable?